Thunder Actively Trying to Move Into Lottery
Per Chad Ford's ESPN NBA Draft blog, league sources have the Thunder (along with the Pistons and the Spurs) pinned as the team most aggressively trying to move up into the lottery for the upcoming draft. The report doesn't get into specifics regarding what prospect the Thunder would be targeting, but confirms that the "Thunder are also in the hunt for a big, and have targeted a few teams in the lottery to move up a few spots. The Thunder have multiple picks to offer". This draft isn't particularly deep with front court depth, and it appears Sam Presti is willing to package our 2 late-first rounders in order to move up and get a quality big. We can only speculate as to who the Thunder are targeting, but the "bigs" currently projected to go in the lottery are Demarcus Cousins, Derek Favors, Greg Monroe, Ekpe Udoh, Cole Aldrich, Ed Davis, and potentially Patrick Patterson, Hassan Whiteside, and Daniel Orton. Presti's track record suggests he wouldn't target someone with a red-flag for character (ruling out Cousins), and with Byron Mullens already on the roster, it's unlikely we'd take another "project" (ruling out Whiteside). With that being said, I'd say the most likely players to be targeted would be more refined products such as Favors, Monroe, Udoh, or Aldrich.
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Presti...
has said he wants this team to be long, athletic, versatile…that rules out Aldrich IMO and I think he has to be targeting Monroe. He can handle the ball relatviely well, he can face-up, he can post-up, he’s got length and athleticism to defend, he’s a very polished passer not only from the high post/perimeter but from the block as well. He would appear to be a perfect fit at the center position. He’s also got Batman-talent with a Robin-mindset.
by ThunderHorn on Jun 8, 2010 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I chose Monroe
Here’s the kicker. We really have NO idea. You knew the Thunder would try and move up. It makes no sense to me why they would considering they could have taken a European player at 21 or 26 and stashed him overseas for two years. If they truly are trying hard to move up, that means Presti loves someone – and I’d say it’s either Monroe or Orton based on reports from Ford and those guys. If Presti can get Favors, he’s either a Wizard or we just lost somebody on roster that is very important. Don’t think it’s Favors. If he’s going to trade up, I think it’s Monroe – only because Presti loves sticking it to the Jazz… Maynor and Monroe off the bench… just sayin.
I said Monroe
but I almost said Aldrich.
Obviously, I’d prefer Monroe to Aldrich.
I saw a mock that had us taking Whiteside at 21. Is his stock slipping?
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yeah
he came across pretty immature and naive at the draft combine apparently. Complained about people not having him highly rated enough, that people weren’t giving him enough credit for his shooting.
If he fell to 21 his upside might be too huge to pass up but he’s got some maturity issues to work out.
Whiteside...
seems like too much of a project to move up for, like the article says. but i’d take him at 21.
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Oh, I hadn't heard that
but yeah, he’s young, so maybe he’d grow out of it, if we took him at 21.
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Monroe
If we took Monroe he would project as the eventual front court compliment to Ibaka (they’d be sort of interchangeable between 4 and 5). We saw what it looked like when Durant tried to play the 2, which begs the question: What the hell happens to Jeff Green? What was once talked about as the “Big Three” of Durant, Westbrook and Green has slowly shifted to the big duo of Durant and Westbrook (with many of the people I’ve read saying Ibaka is the 3rd most valuable player on the roster). Long term its starting to look clear to me that Green is either a super sixth man (which would require him signing a MUCH cheaper extension than Durant or Westbrook), or somebody who isn’t in the Thunder’s plans. One thing is clear though: We can’t win the championship with him starting at power forward. Not while he has to guard guys in the mold of Gasol and Duncan in the playoffs. I say we trade up to get Monroe, and politely let Green walk when his contract expires. Thoughts?
long term IMO
Green moves to 6th man and Harden moves into the starting lineup.
Green is in to stretch the floor. If you take him off the floor you need to add a shooter somewhere to spread things out. Harden into the starting lineup makes the most sense.
I think Green would make a perfect Super Sixth Man.
Hopefully he doesn’t think that he’s a legit Top 3 guy for this franchise, because then we really would have to let him walk, since he isn’t worth that kind of money. But as a tier one sixth man? He’s brilliant.
Hopefully the Thunder can get him to accept that role, because he could be really valuable to them.
Sounds
Beautiful to me. Green’s multifaceted ability is much more useful off the bench, where he can replace either the 3 or the 4 (a la Lamar Odom). Harden is a cinch at the deuce, but the Thunder need another scorer who can come off the bench since Thabo is a defensive specialist.
Udoh...
I went with Udoh. Seems like a good fit, good character kid, should get better too. Although, almost went with Monroe, either one is fine. Drafts are so ridiculous to predict.
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Chad Ford's latest mock draft
has us taking Orton @ 21 and Brackins @ 26.
I hope thats not the case. I’m really starting to sour completely on Orton. At first I didn’t want us trading up for him, then I said @26 thats a decent pick. Now I’m against him in the first round altogether. Apparently his stock is slipping now during the workouts:
Daniel Orton C – 6’10"- 260
Scouts want to like Daniel Orton, but after a small handful of workouts the early returns on Orton are not good. Size matters in the NBA, but teams seem to be underwhelmed by Orton’s athletic game and apparently he has not faired well against his peers in workouts. A lot has been made about Orton’s knee injuries in high school – which did not get red-flagged in Chicago at the Pre-Draft Combine medical review – but observers feel he is a step too slow and lacks power. It is still very likely that Orton goes in the first round, but its beginning to look like he’ll be a teens to mid-twenties pick, where several weeks ago he was viewed as a borderline lottery pick.
So he didn’t test all that well athletically. There are work ethic/attitude questions. There are production questions. There are health questions. There are off-court questions(dad being involved heavily in his recruitment as well as reportedly complaining to Calipari about playing time), and now he’s struggling during workouts.
I just don’t understand how or why Presti would be so high on him. He doesn’t seem to fit the mold at all of what Presti looks for in a player.
I would cry if we took Orton and Brackins
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by ElectricPencils on Jun 9, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I’d probably punt a baby.
I’d definitely punt a baby if you traded up for Orton.
I’d much prefer getting one of Alabi/Sanders(prefer Sanders) and draft one of Jordan Crawford/Terrico White/Mikhail Torrance/Dominique Jones(prefer Crawford or Jones), and draft a euro player to stash for a couple of years.
we are not keeping all four picks
theres just no way! personally, i feel as though we have the picks to move into the lottery..picking up someone like monroe would be incredible! especially if we could package the 26th pick with a second round pick to do so…imagine snagging monroe in the lottery then patterson at 21? with the last pick, we could look to make another trade or we could look at getting someone like lawal for added depth up front or we could look to add another scorer. i honestly think moving green to sixth man would be beautiful if he can be sold on it. imagine a starting lineup of this:
pg westbrook
sg harden
sf durant
pf ibaka
c monroe
bench: green, maynor, sef, patterson, etc…
thoughts?
to be honest...
I don’t think we will be able to move all the way up for Monroe.
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you say that now
but dont forget who the gm is…sam presti is a magician. he can turn a 32nd and a 26th pick into a top ten. if not that, then he can take those two picks and a couple peices like collison and white and make it in…there are several teams in the top ten that need not just one peice but several to turn the franchise around. if i was offered two pretty good picks in a fairly decent draft plus a solid veteran defensive big, i just might make the move to better the franchise.
Green
I think you guys are all over looking Green’s pride with regard to his willingness to move to a sixth man role. Yes, he’s a poster child for professionalism and team-first attitude. However, if we wanted to keep him as a sixth man long term, we would have to pay him like a sixth man long term. This isn’t a video game with no salary cap. Westbrook and Durant are both due massive extensions, as are Ibaka and Harden at some point if they develop the way we hope they will. Throw Greg Monroe in there as a top 10 pick, and there won’t be a lot of money to properly compensate Jeff Green. Also, remember that he came into the league with Durant, and has been by his side throughout the entire rebuilding process. I think he knows Durant is the superior player, but he wouldn’t be willing to sit there and take backup money while KD accepts a max-contract. I love Jeff Green, and if he were to leave at any point, I’d wish him the best of luck. I just think it’s starting to look like—particularly if we add another lottery pick into our front court this year—he isn’t in our long term plans.
Draft Express
has James Anderson going at number 23? Really?
We wouldn’t actuall let him get past us at 21, would we?
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by ElectricPencils on Jun 13, 2010 4:30 AM CDT reply actions
no way.
if we stand pat with our picks, i say we would def take anderson at 21. only reason we would do that is if whiteside, patterson, or a lottery big slipped and presti felt that they were too good to pass up. otherwise, we would def pick up anderson and then look to fill in the need for bigs later in the draft by grabbing guys like lawal, richards, alabi, or sanders IMO
Sanders/Alabi breakdown.
Breakdown of Sanders/Alabi from the NBA combine.
thunder moving into lottery
personally There are good proven Power forwards on the free agent market now. Why not add one of them then we have a for sure team that can Beat them Stinkin lakers, and the jazz and nuggets and portland on a more consistant basis. I say sign Nowitsky.
You still will have money when it comes time re-sign Durant.

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