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Chad Ford says Stoudemire may be up for trade...

There has been many possible trade ideas floating about for the Oklahoma City Thunder. Why not start a few more? ESPN's Chad Ford had been discussing the top 10 names that may be moved by the trade deadline. Names like Amare Stoudemire, Hasheem Thabeet, Andre Iguodala, and Shane Battier may be available soon. Is anyone interested?

Let's see what Mr. Ford says...

Amare Stoudemire, F, Suns
Stoudemire made our list last week, but just barely. The thinking was that, given the Suns' recent success, the team would likely hold on to him, see how far it could get in the playoffs, and then, this summer, try to sign him or try to do a sign-and-trade.

But the feedback I've received in the last week has caused me to recalibrate the chances of Stoudemire getting traded. The Suns are in a slump (losers of 15 of their last 26), and the word out of Phoenix is that there has been some tension in the locker room involving Stoudemire.

Stoudemire won't be easy to trade. He can become an unrestricted free agent this summer, and any team that trades for him is going to want some sort of guarantee that he'll sign an extension or a new contract this summer. If Stoudemire's willing to give it, and a team is willing to give up a substantial asset for him, the Suns may very well pull the trigger.

I see this essentially the same as the Bosh trade rumor/fantasies that has been floating around. The Thunder could easily toss some expiring contracts, cheap rookie assets, and draft picks at Phoenix and pick up Amare Stoudemire this year. The question remains, will Amare stay around for very long?

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Andre Iguodala, G/F, Sixers
For the past several weeks, I've dismissed the idea that the 76ers, even if they are desperate to reduce payroll, would give away Iguodala for the expiring contract of Tracy McGrady. But after talking with a number of people close to the situation, I think it's plausible.

A deal of Iguodala and Samuel Dalembert for McGrady would work under terms of the collective bargaining agreement. While it would eat up any cap space the Rockets might have this summer, if Iguodala is the prize, who cares?

So what's the holdup? A couple of things. From Houston's point of view, Dalembert's 15 percent trade kicker would be a bitter pill. And from Philadelphia's perspective, it's important to get back an asset for a building block like Iguodala. While the Sixers love the idea of getting his long-term salary and Dalembert's off the books, they want something in return. The Rockets could offer Trevor Ariza or Aaron Brooks to sweeten the deal, but it sounds as though talks haven't gotten that far yet.

OKC could easily walk into this trade scenario. The Thunder could toss a 1st round pick to the 76ers to sweeten the deal. Imagine this... The 76ers receive T-Mac, Chase Budinger, and a 1st round pick from OKC. The Rockets receive Andre Iguodala, Nenad Krstic, Etan Thomas, and D.J. White. Then Thunder could take Samuel Dalembert and Carl Landry. Of course this deal could go down without a White/Landry swap, but I think Presti is shrewd enough to make this happen. The 76ers would get a great young player, an All Star, and an additional 1st round pick. The Rockets would get a temporary front court for this season, an expiring contract in Thomas, and a young star with Iggy. The Thunder would clear up some roster space, and add some toughness to it front court.

 

Hasheem Thabeet, C, Grizzlies
Gay isn't the only player the Grizzlies would move for the right price. Thabeet is off to a slow start in his rookie season in Memphis and doesn't fit into the team's current plans. Still, he was the No. 2 pick in the draft, and he has value in the league.

If a team is willing to give up a veteran defensive presence, I think he could be had.

This could be an easy pick up. I know the Thunder heavily scouted Hasheem before last year's draft. I wonder if they are still interested.

 

Shane Battier, F, Rockets
Battier is the heart and soul of Morey's Rockets. Remember, Houston traded lottery pick Rudy Gay for him in 2005, shortly after Morey's arrival, and has never looked back. While Gay has been the more electric prospect, Battier has done what Battier does: all the little things that translate into chemistry and wins. I don't think any team in the league values him the way Morey does.

That said, there have been rumblings that Battier is available for the right price. The Rockets are after a big man, and, well, isn't just about anyone available for the right price? I don't see a team making an offer that knocks Morey's socks off, but you never know.

Battier seems like a Presti guy if I've ever seen one. Shane is a classy veteran that could add some leadership and 3pt shooting. I know OKC is looking for some front court support as well, but maybe Presti could make an offer Morey can't refuse.

To read Chad Ford's full ESPN Insider article click HERE .

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i actually said in a thread a few days ago that if they keep sliding they will probably move amare because i dont see him going back there after this year. as for him coming here, i dont really like the idea because he doesnt defend at all.

the problem with your scenario is that i dont see the rockets giving up landry. im not that big on dalembert either unless iverson comes with him because he plays much much better with AI then without him, like comically so.

We have our battier in thabo.

With thabeet ironically i am more interested now than i was at the draft, but not sure what they would want for him. imagine memphis if they had picked the local (college at least) boy in tyreke where they would be right now.

by mleetch352 on Jan 21, 2010 5:53 PM CST reply actions  

I'm not sure about thabeet.

I was kinda hyped for him last draft. At least for a day or two, but now I’m not sure if we need another project.

The Landry idea was a last minute additional thought. I figured Presti would want a little more. We would be helping the Rockets move T-Mac, give them two serviceable big men and an expiring contract as well. Why not get a little extra in return?

Dalembert is not our answer I know, but he is a young solid defensive big man that can offer a little more rebounding and blocks.

Your friendly neighborhood Loud City resident.

by daddydai on Jan 21, 2010 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

i still think thabeet is a zero on the offensive end but as a defensive presence you cant dispute it depending on cost. tough to discount 1.2 blks in 10.8 min a game.

i dont disagree that presti would want more for helping the rockets, but i think that is precisely why the deal hasnt happened already cause i believe chicago asked for scola or landry in earlier talks. like i said dalembert doesnt play with nearly the same intensity without Iverson, dont know why, but it is real.

by mleetch352 on Jan 21, 2010 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Amare

I don’t think Presti’s gonna go after Amare—he’s one of the biggest defensive liabilities in the league and we’re trying to build a team on the foundation of defense. Amare’s value is on a team that doesn’t have a scorer who can create his own shot, where he could dominate the ball. We’ve got Durant already. Amare would make us more explosive for sure, but it wouldn’t be worth what we’d like have to give up (probably a substantial amount considering what Golden State almost gave up to get him at last year’s draft).

That being said though, if Amare gets shipped out of Phoenix before the deadline, that is a VERY good thing for the Thunder, who are owners of the Suns’ first round pick this year. With the surplus of good teams in the West battling for just 8 playoff spots, losing Amare would almost ensure a spot in the lottery for us this year!

by illfreaky911 on Jan 22, 2010 12:08 PM CST reply actions  

interesting question i dont know the answer to. if a team, say the knicks deal for amare before the deadline, do they own his bird rights making it possible to add another top FA and then sign Amare via bird rights?

by mleetch352 on Jan 22, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

to answer my own question, yes and no/im not sure. yes if a pending FA who has played the last 3 years with a club without being waived has bird rights and they get traded with them. the no/im not sure part is if that player (Stoudemire) has a player option and turns it down i dont know if the bird rights are the same because he was not originally a FA but basically voided the last year of his deal to become one.

by mleetch352 on Jan 22, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

one where another defender follows him and guards his man too?

I think in PHX you can easily argue that the team defense concept is a problem, but that has nothing to do with the fact that Amare doesnt check the man he is supposed to be guarding. The “system” didnt make Raja Bell worse on the defensive end, didnt make marion worse, joe johnson as well and doesnt make Robin Lopez or amundson worse on that end individually. With Amare i think he has the skill to be better defensively but not necessarily the will or desire. I think he in many ways exhibits that in just rebounding. With a guy his size and his athletic ability added to his minutes he should easily be getting 10-12 boards a night. sometimes it is just about hustle.

If we want to say the system might be part of his defensive problems dont we also have to say that it might be inflating his offensive abilities because nash gets him easier looks than he would get almost anywhere else in the league. Look at Marion who played well there and hasnt produce anywhere near that level once he left.

by mleetch352 on Jan 22, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  


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