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The Minnesota Timberwolves today announced the team has traded center Etan Thomas and two future second-round draft picks to the Oklahoma City Thunder in exchange for 6-6 guard Damien Wilkins and 5-11 guard Chucky Atkins.

“We’re committed towards rebuilding our roster with an eye towards flexibility and long-term success, and this move better positions us for the summer,” said David Kahn, Timberwolves President of Basketball Operations. “I want to thank Etan for his professionalism and understanding, and wish him all the best moving forward.”

“We are pleased to welcome Etan Thomas to the Thunder family,” said Thunder Executive Vice President and General Manager Sam Presti. “Etan adds experience and depth to our front court as well as a defensive mentality and competitiveness that we value.”

Wilkins joins the Wolves after spending each of his five previous NBA seasons with the Thunder franchise, where he signed as a free agent after going undrafted in the 2004 NBA Draft. In 310 career games, Wilkins has averaged 7.6 points, 2.6 rebounds and 1.5 assists per game.

A 10-year NBA veteran, Atkins went undrafted out of the University of South Florida before signing with Orlando in 1999. In 655 career games with Orlando, Detroit, Boston, L.A. Lakers, Washington, Memphis, Denver and Oklahoma City, Atkins has averaged 10.2 points and 3.5 assists per game. Atkins was named to the NBA All-Rookie Second Team in 1999 and also played on the gold-medal-winning U.S. National Team at the 1995 World University Games.

Thomas, acquired by the Wolves on June 24, has appeared in 373 games over his seven-year career. The 6-9 center owns career averages if 6.0 points and 4.9 rebounds per game. Thomas was originally selected by the Dallas Mavericks with the 12th overall pick in the 2000 NBA Draft.

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I am pretty happy with this trade.

We were able to get a relatively cheap veteran, in exchange for dumping two who didn’t add anything to the roster. Hopefully Thomas can help the front court depth and ability, if not well we got two second rounders. pretty good for us overall I think.

by 21standyale on Jul 27, 2009 2:22 PM CDT reply actions  

stoked about this!

I really like Etan on AND off the court. His controlled activism on very important issues proves he’s strong minded and i think he’ll be something to be proud of here… Plus he will add that veteran edge to our struggling defense… i am pleased with this…

by tron solo on Jul 27, 2009 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

and

he’ll open up another roster spot. It’s easier to move one expiring contract than it is two, and he’s from Oklahoma!

by 21standyale on Jul 27, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

lets not go crazy about this as far as getting etan thomas as he never stays healthy. he can be a decent backup, but i think this move other than the two draft picks set the stage for another move such as trading nick.

i have no problem with these types of moves where we are just stock piling picks and taking on no long term salary commitments while anything Thomas does on the floor is a bonus. Basically in this move we paid 3 mil for those 2 2nd rounders and if we think about it basically it is 1 and replacing the one we gave away to get Mullens.

Next one of these should be getting Antonio Daniels from NO and them giving us their first next year to save them 13 mil in salary and luxury tax costs for doing it, while daniels could be a solid contributor for us.

by Michael Gleich on Jul 27, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions  

good move

get a guy, that when healthy, can be a defensive/rebounding presence we need at the center spot. He is also in the last year of his deal which hopefully means he will produce above his normal production as he looks toward getting a contract next season.

We also trade two guys who weren’t going to be seeing much, if any, playing time and pick up two 2nd rounders.

A move to basically dump salary and pick up some 2nd rounders. If Thomas produces than great.

I think a Collison to Bobacts for one of their centers trade could come in the next few days. Chandler for Okafor is in the works right now and if Diop/Nazr aren’t part of the deal that gives Charlotte 3 C’s and they would be lacking at the PF spot.

by ThunderHorn on Jul 27, 2009 4:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I like Mr. Horn's thinking....

Injury issues aside, I was very happy when I saw this trade. Wilkins is nothing and I doubt Atkins suits up. Ever. Etan Thomas has been very productive when actually on the court as well. Especially in the areas we need help. So at worst we get 2 more 2nd round draft picks, which is more than we got for a better player in the Earl Watson buyout.

I would love this to set up a trade for DeSagana Diop. Although, only if it is indeed for Diop, as I have no interest in Nazr Mohammed.

 Also, I would not be a fan of losing Nick Collison in order to make it happen either. However, Collison would have to go to make the salaries match, unless, Charlotte wanted to throw in Dontell Jefferson as well.

Which is possible since Charlotte just drafted Alexis Ajinca last year and Gerald Henderson this year. Very unlikely though, because we would then have to send Serge Ibaka or Byron(BJ) Mullens to the D-League to make room on the roster.

I don’t think many of us personally would mind Mullens playing a year in the D-League, but that just seems like a lot of movement for back-ups and band-aids.

Then there is the fact that Diop has a three year deal on the books currently. So in the most feasible of scenarios, sending Collison to Charlotte for Diop straight up, would essentially be trading a fan favorite for a few inches in height and a slight edge in shot blocking. And let’s not forget that Diop is not at all as consistent as Collison has been.

So in the end, I actually don’t see this setting up another move. This, to me, is simply a very good plug until the 2010 draft in which we draft our center for the future, or at least hope to.

I might be developing a bit of a man crush on Mr. Presti. He is pushing all the right buttons and making all the right moves for a team on the rise and one with a very bright future. No panic. He is a man with a plan, a very good plan, and he is sticking to it.

How can you NOT love this team, front office, and most of all, the great state of Oklahoma!

by NSU Stud on Jul 27, 2009 6:14 PM CDT reply actions  

why on earth

would anyone want to deal for Diop with his 4 years and 26.8 million left on his contract. it was so bad that even mark cuban wanted to dump it for his AWFUL production. he couldnt even consistently beat out Dampier. lol.

by Michael Gleich on Jul 27, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha.
okafor for chandler is interesting because okafor is a better player but also is strange because NO is usually looking to dump salary not add years. must be getting nervous about chris paul bolting if they give up.

by Michael Gleich on Jul 27, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I made that point

long winded but I made that point….you guys just need to calm down and not jump on people so quickly…We all agree we need a strong defensive 7 footer and we also all agree that we need not rush or settle to do it….i know there is nothing to talk about so slight bashing is always the alternative but just relax a little…

I dont think anyone would argue Diop is the better player between him and Mohammed. And I said that of those two Diop would be the only one of interest. I also said that was not even desirable given his contract….no idea how that makes me a glutton for pain or sadist or anything else….we all agree…

by NSU Stud on Jul 28, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not directed at you at all

I was just having fun there — your point is well taken with regard to Diop being an option — he’s definitely not a horrific option when we take a look at what we have in the cupboard. The glutton for pain bit was more directed at the team/FO if they went through with this — as you mentioned, there’s no way we take this on if we have to eat his contract and get nothing else of benefit. If that’s the case, you’d have to be a glutton for pain to go for such a one-sided deal.

by manifestus on Jul 28, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

nothing i say is ever meant personally. my point is to take on diop for 4 years and nearly 27 million just because he is 7 ft is the definition of jumping quickly and making a bad move to fill “need”. If it was like Thomas and 1 year for 6 mil then it could be an option but he is not a good enough player to make a long term commitment like that.

by Michael Gleich on Jul 28, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

HaHa!

Sorry, got a little cheesy at the end but I think we all know where it was coming from.

by NSU Stud on Jul 27, 2009 6:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow, this is an amazing trade.

“Will you give me one marginal NBA player who’s a great locker-room guy and influence for two marginal NBA players? Oh, and hey, give me a bunch of early second-round picks.”
“OK!!!!”
I wonder what Kahn’s thinking about. Are the contracts Presti traded away both expiring? Is he saving money?
I’m confused.

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by Prevenge on Jul 28, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I wonder if Haywood had it coming. Etan seems to be a high character guy by all accounts. Great to see two into one vet, with a couple of twos thrown in. I am a little worried about a third pg if anyone goes down but Weaver did see some time there last year. This is going to be some team in a few years.

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by blackvanilla on Jul 28, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both Weaver and Harden had a bit of time running the point recently

While that’s not a perfect solution, it would work in a pinch until someone could be signed on for a few games if it comes to that.

by manifestus on Jul 28, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone was talking about Harden’s handle and passing ability in summer league, I could see that working for 10 min a game.

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by blackvanilla on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wilkens has another year on his contract I believe

The reason I brought up Nazr, were the contracts match, both money and length wise. Charlotte has not PF’s other than Diaw and we would have 5 PF’s here. We could also use their dearth of PF’s to get back future picks(2nd rounders, but you can never have too many of those).

I think the most important thing will be the attitude/toughness he brings. He is gonna make every practice that much more intense b/c of the way he plays. He is also gonna challenge Mullens/Ibaka/our young PF/C to get tougher otherwise they get bullied and shut down by a guy half(at best) as talented as they are and are probably bouncing around the league their entire careers. Being soft is a real quick way to find yourself without many contract offers in a few years.

by ThunderHorn on Jul 28, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions  

no he does not. both atkins and wilkins were done after the upcoming year.

Everyone would love to have a 7ft who could block a shot but unless that player is a significant upgrade as a player or only has 1 year on his deal i dont want to make a trade for them. Nazr and Diop are not significant upgrades

by Michael Gleich on Jul 28, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

having 5 PF’s on the team, 3 of which have a similar skill set doesn’t do much for this team either.

This team has two valuable trading pieces in Collison and Livingston(provided he shows improvement from last year both in his game and in his health). I see no problem in using them to get help at a position of need even if the guys coming in are only slight improvements.

by ThunderHorn on Jul 28, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Especially since Livingston

Provided he does as well as people think he’s going to do this season, is going to cost a lot more and probably want to go to a team where he has a shot at starting. Trading him for pieces would be prudent at that juncture.

by manifestus on Jul 28, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you are talking about Diop, adding two more years past where nick’s contract ends makes any on court “improvement” and i would say nick is much better nil. Remember the salary cap is going DOWN and we have people who are going to get paid in 2 years. if you want to get an overpaid center at least go after Kaman who is a legit starter and can play on both ends while blocking just as many shots as these other jokers.

by Michael Gleich on Jul 28, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

Does this mean OKC resigns Mason now that there’s an extra roster spot?

by ElectricPencils on Jul 28, 2009 6:31 PM CDT reply actions  

mason is probably coming back

by Michael Gleich on Jul 28, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Want a center with value

that i would actually give something up to get, how about Marc Gasol. They just brought in Thabeet and Randolph, Gasol cant play the 4 anyway, so if we are so desperate for a center there is a legit player to go after that is 7 ft and for the last two months was putting up 14.3 7.5 and 1.3

by Michael Gleich on Jul 28, 2009 7:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm sure

He’d love to get out of Memphis, too.

by ElectricPencils on Jul 28, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Afer Thabeet's performance in Vegas...

I don’t think Gasol should be worried about playing time.

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by daddydai on Jul 29, 2009 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

never said he should be

but if we are going to discuss making trades for centers lets at least go for ones that can play.

by Michael Gleich on Jul 29, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't matter so much that Thabeet sucked in the summer

It’s more an issue of them having Randolph AND Thabeet on board “behind” Gasol now — which makes Gasol infinitely more tradeable.

by manifestus on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

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