OKC Thunder a playoff team?
Now please hear me out before you jump to conclusions
The Thunder elected to select James Harden with the 3rd overall pick. I was shocked when i heard they passed on Rubio but after analyzing the situation more it seems like a good call. Harden will fit nicely into the vacant 2 guard spot. He is a very mature player and has a high basketball IQ. He knows how to run an offense and will be a facilitator to Durant and Westbrook. There are two keys to the Thunders success next season. The first is the maturation of Kevin Durant. He made a 5 point scoring jump from his rookie to sophmore season and will likely increase it this season. But more important than scoring will be his ability to lead his team. He must find ways to keep the Thunder in ball games until the 4th quarter where he can take over and he must keep his young players focused on winning and not the other thrills of NBA life. If Durant is able to keep his team focused and stay healthy the Thunder can potentially be a force to be reckoned with. The Second key to the Thunders season is the center position. No Knock against Krstic but he is a backup at best. They drafted B.J. Mullens who will be a good role player one day but is still too raw. If the Thunder can acquire a center who can play defense i can honestly see them slipping into the 8th seed. Centers seem like a rarity these days but one possibility is Tyson Chandler who has been in trade talks for a while. The Thunder need someone who will protect the paint and grab rebounds.
If Yao Ming was healthy i would say the Thunder have no shot at making playoffs but the Rockets are likely going to be a lottery team next year. The Suns will be decent next year but with Nash another year older and Amare confused on where he wants to be i think they have to many internal issues. Another team that will not be as formidable next year is the Jazz. All the Boozer trade talk along with the Millsap drama leaves the rest of the Jaz players uncertain of who their teamates will be next year.
PG- Westbrook- must take good shots and run the offense which he has been doing very well in summer league. MUST BE CONSISTENT.
SG- James Harden- he needs to find his role on the team and play it well. Create shots for Durant and Green.
SF- Kevin Durant- He needs to be a top 5 scorer who requires double teams and must keep his team focused.
PF- Jeff Green- Green must rebound and defend the inside well. On offense he has to make other bigs guard him on the perimeter and utilize his exceptional passing ability.
C- Krstic- With Krstic at center OKC is not a playoff team but if theycan find a defensive center they have a shot.
Look for the Thunder to move up in the standings this year and maybe possibly slip into the 8th spot if everything goes their way. Even if they do not make the playoffs they are going to be extremely fun to watch and I believe when Durants career is over he will be one of the greatest scorers of all time.
TheNBAScoop
For all your NBA news, rumors and speculation visit TheNBAScoop on twitter at: http://twitter.com/TheNBAScoop
This post does not necessarily reflect the views of the staff of Welcome to Loud City or SB Nation. However, it was made by one of the members of the Welcome to Loud City community, so there is a large chance the above post is extremely ballin'!
18 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Teams ahead of us
Not sure if enough teams will drop to make it in next year. Phoenix didn’t even make it in last year and they won like 40 something games, they should be down though. Hopefully they do a sign-and-trade with Amare and they go way down, since we get their draft pick. I don’t buy Utah being down, D Williams was hurt last year and they obviously like Milsap over Boozer. Houston is a mess, they should be way down, but don’t forget they played pretty well without Yao against the Lakers, so they may be a surprise. I just don’t see it happening this year, but I will keep my fingers crossed. Any other teams looking to fall?
I’m sick of the saturation of the word maturation. Just had to say that.
Also Known as "4D" one step beyond 3D
Me too.
Though I have to say, “maturation saturation” could be a nice phrase to throw around. Kind of rolls off the tongue.
this team could be a playoff team. There is enough talent on the roster for this team to potentially make the playoffs. Durant, Green, and Westbrook all continuing to improve will be key.
I’m as big a KD fan as there is but he obviously has a lot of room for improvement. Obviously he needs to get stronger, better conditioned and improve his rebounding and defense. I think even just as important will be him learning to move without the ball better. The thing that separates the Kobes, Lebrons, and Wades from the Lewises, Maggettes, etc is their movement without the ball. Those elite guys can create for themselves but they can also play off the ball and score off screens and backdoor cuts.
Chandler is not a good idea for this team. He is vastly overpaid and has 2 years left on his deal, and we won’t really know if he is 100% back. A better option would be Camby who we can rent for a year or a guy like Pryzbilla who has a couple of years left but comes at a much, much cheaper price.
White is going to be on the roster. Collison and playmaking ability should not be used in the same sentence. He’s a serviceable backup but I think White will probably end up being the better player.
I’d look for Ibaka and Mullens to see time in the d-league as well as the nba.
Just for fun I hereby post my "analysis" of your analysis
The Thunder elected to select James Harden with the 3rd overall pick. I was shocked when i heard they passed on Rubio but after analyzing the situation more it seems like a good call.
What analysis?
Harden will fit nicely into the vacant 2 guard spot. He is a very mature player and has a high basketball IQ.
What does this mean?
He knows how to run an offense and will be a facilitator to Durant and Westbrook.
And here I thought Westbrook was supposed to get better at this whole facilitation thing and Harden was supposed to pick up the slack with our miserable perimeter shooting …
There are two keys to the Thunders success next season. The first is the maturation of Kevin Durant. He made a 5 point scoring jump from his rookie to sophmore season and will likely increase it this season. But more important than scoring will be his ability to lead his team. He must find ways to keep the Thunder in ball games until the 4th quarter where he can take over and he must keep his young players focused on winning and not the other thrills of NBA life. If Durant is able to keep his team focused and stay healthy the Thunder can potentially be a force to be reckoned with.
Where are you going with this? Durant obviously needs to improve, but increasing his point production is not all that important. He needs to get stronger, rebound more, play defense, get better at (as ThunderHorn notes) moving without the ball, and basically, improve. It’s not on Durant to keep the team focused … that’s sort of the perogative of the members of the team itself. As a team leader on a team built around him, I’m sure he’s contributing to the spirit of gunning for wins — but isn’t everyone? Not to mention I think most of the individuals on the roster are of a similar mindset.
The Second key to the Thunders season is the center position. No Knock against Kristic but he is a backup at best. They drafted B.J. Mullens who will be a good role player one day but is still too raw. If the Thunder can acquire a center who can play defense i can honestly see them slipping into the 8th seed. Centers seem like a rarity these days but one possibility is Tyson Chandler who has been in trade talks for a while. The Thunder need someone who will protect the paint and grab rebounds.
Krstic is so unremarkable that you didn’t even spell the name correctly. So yes, indeed it’d be a nice idea to find a defensive center — or better yet, an all around center. You know — that missing piece we’ve looked for the past decade plus. Chandler isn’t going to happen. It got axed before for a reason, and it’d be ridiculous if now it all worked out again. Defensive minded centers aren’t as rare as you think. They are just all locked up, playing backup to someone who fields some modicum of offensive/post moves, or not nearly as skilled rebounding or in specific rotations. It’s not to say they are all that easy to find, but several decent options are always available nearly every FA period.
If Yao Ming was healthy i would say the Thunder have no shot at making playoffs but the Rockets are likely going to be a lottery team next year. The Suns will be decent next year but with Nash another year older and Amare confused on where he wants to be i think they have to many internal issues. Another team that will not be as formidable next year is the Jazz. All the Boozer trade talk along with the Millsap drama leaves the rest of the Jaz players uncertain of who their teamates will be next year.
Huge random generalities … wow. I’ll follow up with my own similar unprovable and similarly haphazard opinions. The Rockets aren’t going to be nearly as bad as you think they will be. Losing Yao is bad, yes. The rest of the team is unlikely to just keel over though. Utah? At the end of the day, they still have Boozer and Millsap. Drama is drama, but it didn’t stop the Kobe+Shaq combo from winning. Just saying …
PG- Westbrook- must take good shots and run the offense which he has been doing very well in summer league. MUST BE CONSISTENT.
Or rather, he needs to continue improving his PG skills, his shot, and reducing turnovers. At that point, after he gets better, consistency would be nice. Being highly consistent at being turnover prone and random is stupid, if that makes any sense. Stats 101 — reliability does not equal validity.
SG- James Harden- he needs to find his role on the team and play it well. Create shots for Durant and Green.
What? He needs to become a SCORING THREAT which will create opportunities for EVERYONE else.
SF- Kevin Durant- He needs to be a top 5 scorer who requires double teams and must keep his team focused.
He already takes double teams, because everyone can just collapse their pressure on him. That’s what we drafted Harden to attempt to remedy.
PF- Jeff Greene- Greene must rebound and defend the inside well. On offense he has to make other bigs guard him on the perimeter and utilize his exceptional passing ability.
Jeff GREEN is the PF, and I’m sure he’s better than Jeff Greene, but that’s another point. As far as the rest … eh.
C- Kristic- With Kristic at center OKC is not a playoff team but if theycan find a defensive center they have a shot.
Krstic (what’s up with slaughtering these names? I swear it isn’t that difficult …) is obviously not the long term solution at C.
Look for the Thunder to move up in the standings this year and maybe possibly slip into the 8th spot if everything goes their way. Even if they do not make the playoffs they are going to be extremely fun to watch and I believe when Durants career is over he will be one of the greatest scorers of all time.
Well … yeah they are probably going to improve. Unlikely to do worse. And yes, they could slip into the 8th spot, but I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to happen. If it does? Of course I’ll be overjoyed — but it’s not really the purpose of this year. Though it would be nice.
A blanket statement for team improvement would be something inane like: “To win more games, the Thunder need to score more than the other team and stop the other team from scoring as much as they score”. Which is so obvious, it’s stupid.
TheNBAScoop
For all your NBA news, rumors and speculation visit TheNBAScoop on twitter at: http://twitter.com/TheNBAScoop
No thanks.
What? Damnit I thought I was getting better at this whole
Cute and cuddly introduction thing. I even used the methods I took away from the full-day 4D WTLC Introductory Seminar …
Remember smile and curtsy
before deploying your anti-aircraft missiles.
Also Known as "4D" one step beyond 3D
Wow ok thanks for your opinions lol.
There is a difference between constructive criticism and just being a dick and you my friend are the latter.
“Great! Manifestus just scared someone else away. :p” even your fellow fans think so.
Not sure if you are always this rude but its not neccesary. Voice your opinions but do it in an appropriate manner.
ps. Who cares if i spelt KRISTIC and GREENE’s name wrong im pretty sure everyone knew who i was talking about.
Good luck in life bro you need it.
by TheNBAScoop on Jul 20, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I guess that's where we differ
In terms of determining whether to take it as constructive criticism or something else. All criticism can be construed as constructive, so long as you interpret it as so. I don’t have “fans”. Just other fellow board WTLC members.
I think my central point here (and in most other similar criticisms of fanposts) is that one should take a look at what has already previously been discussed, contemplated, and/or derided, before posting something that is more or less a huge rehash of what folks are already aware of.
Unfortunately, making matters worse here is:
1. An attempt at making this some sort of an (objective?) analysis, when in fact it is a poorly written opinion piece.
2. Blatant advertisement of some random site, which is just annoying.
3. Lack of understanding of the players on the team, which while okay, is completely a bad idea when trying to outline your opinion — again, reading what’s been discussed (like the team weaknesses, how the team actually improved or failed to improve, why Harden was drafted, why Chandler is a non-option, how on/off ball movement is crucial, how Westbrook has a tendency to turn the ball over, etc etc etc) BEFORE writing all this stuff.
While any one of these is fine, in concert I felt like responding somewhat sarcastically, because that’s a huge bundle of fun to respond to. The names are the least of it — but it’s pretty funny if you start writing up how X/Y/Z player is good/bad/brings various strengths/weaknesses/et al. to the table … and you indicate your depth of knowledge related to said player by immediately spelling their name incorrectly. Krstic is understandable. Green, not so much.
I’m sad you see me as a dick, but I’ll take that criticism constructively, and explain why I am responding to this inane fanpost in such a vein. You, my dear friend, could always take my “dickishness” and use it constructively — and post EDITS TO YOUR FANPOST.
Ciao!
And really
If you did look at my comments above, they weren’t really all that harsh. I merely responded to each of the points you made. It’s really your turn to continue said conversation, or that of other members to chime in.
You didn’t think fanposts were meant for us all to agree and pat each other on the back right? Fanposts are generally open to comments and discussions because they elicit differing opinions. Sorry if my opinions aren’t all of the immediately-suck-up type.
I think your taking this a little too seriously, im not a professional writer im just doing this for fun.
Thanks for the spelling tips. : )
by TheNBAScoop on Jul 20, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
you obviously are trying to do a simple promotion.
The Dream Shake ...on Twitter.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
After seeing this FanPost
and reading Mayberry’s piece in the Oklahoman, I decided to post some analysis on the whole “playoff talk” thing. The story should be on the front page on Wednesday.
There will even be an awesome poll where you can all predict how the Thunder will fare!
by dishingoutdimes on Jul 20, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions
Wow cool im looking forward to wednesday.
by TheNBAScoop on Jul 20, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions




































