Loud Links: Oklahoma City Thunder News for June 30, 2009
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Also expect Chucky Atkins to be waived or traded. Next year Atkins contract will be worth $3.4M, but only 760k of that is guaranteed. As a trading piece Atkins could be an interesting asset. He could be traded to a team that needs cap relief, then waived by that team for an instant $2.6M worth of cap space savings. Even more if the OKC-bound player’s contract is over $3.4M. Could Orlando send Pietrus to OKC to free up space to try to resign Turkoglu and Gortat? Probably not, but that would be a quick way for them to save $4.5M. Anyway, enough speculation we have links to be read…
Thunder: Don’t Give The Money To Ben Gordon | Dime Magazine
That’d be a mistake. OKC has built one through three through the draft. They have solid role players behind those guys in Thabo Sefolosha, Kyle Weaver, Earl Watson, and Damien Wilkins. There’s no need to create a traffic jam for Harden to get on the court. The Thunder’s money would be much better spent on Paul Millsap, who they’re supposedly ready to offer a five-year, $65 million sheet. The 24-year old power forward takes this roster one step further, solidifying them one through four. It might force Austin’s boy Jeff Green to come off the bench, presuming that Harden is ready to start from day one.
Chad Ford: Who's going to be spending money? - ESPN Insider
Given a projected $58.7 million cap, the Thunder could have roughly $13-14 million in cap space this summer, depending on what they do with Chucky Atkins.
How To Save Money, Part 2: - Chicago Bulls Confidential
Chucky Atkins (Oklahoma City Thunder): $760,000 of $3,480,000 guaranteed, no guarantee date.
Free-agent fits: Bucher's top 20 - ESPN Insider
Anderson Varejao, PF/C, Cavaliers - His game: Defensive stopper on the post, clever moving without the ball, chasing loose balls and rebounds for extra possessions, excellent help defender in every way except as a shot-blocker. Deceptively agile and athletic. Finishes well around the rim in traffic. Jump shot is improving but still unreliable. - Right system: Defensive-oriented with four offensive threats around him, leaving him free to score off putbacks and backdoor cuts. Drive-and-kick in which he's the big rolling to the basket. - Wrong system: Post-player-dominated offense or scheme based on pick-and-rolls in which he's not involved. Those frameworks eliminate his cuts off the ball for baskets or chances for putbacks. - Best fits: Cavaliers, Celtics, Hawks, Bulls, Nuggets, Thunder, Suns
BallerBlogger.com " 2009 Western Conference Draft Review
The only reason I have a problem their draft is because they passed on Rubio. I don’t care if Russell Westbrook would be upset (lets be clear on this, Russell Westbrook is NOT a point guard). You have an amazing young core of athletes, and you’re going to bet on Westbrook developing point guard skills instead of drafting the prodigy point guard whose passing evokes comparisons to Maravich and Magic? I can’t be too mad though, because I think Harden fits really well there, and adds another nice piece to their core. Mullens is also a good pick at 24. He’s a longshot, but this is a guy who would’ve been a top 5 pick out of high school and has outrageous physical tools. In a draft that really only had 2 legit center prospects, the Thunder needed a center and got one of them. He may be a flop, but in a draft this weak, a talent like Mullens is certainly worth the risk.
Durant hosts basketball camp in Oklahoma City - USATODAY.com
The Oklahoma City Thunder star opened the three-day camp Monday at Heritage Hall High School. About 350 boys and girls between the ages of 7 and 14 are participating in the camp, which was formerly hosted by All-Star point guard Chris Paul of the New Orleans Hornets.
Nuggets, Rockets also earn kudos for draft-day moves - USATODAY.com
The Oklahoma City Thunder were among the winners last week when they swapped the rights to their first-round pick, guard Rodrigue Beaubois, and a future second-round pick to the Dallas Mavericks for 7-foot center B.J. Mullens. The former Ohio State Buckeye will give the Thunder the solid post player they have lacked.
Emerging face of a franchise | NewsOK.com
He wasn’t perfect last season, turning the ball over too much, but he was a rookie point guard. There are very few newbies who can come into the NBA and play point guard like a veteran. Chris Paul had about as good a rookie season as any point guard could, and still, Oklahoma City fans know CP3 had his struggles. But he improved throughout the season.
Durant seeks Longhorns help as he tries to beef up - USATODAY.com
Oklahoma City Thunder star Kevin Durant says the two-hour workouts he's been doing on his old college campus this summer are strenuous enough that he sweats through his entire uniform by the time he's done. For the former Rookie of the Year who's trying to shake his resemblance to a stick figure, Durant says its exactly what he needs. Durant finished last season as the NBA's sixth-leading scorer, but wanted to come back as a stronger player. He's been taking a summer school class at the University of Texas this summer and working out with the Longhorns players when he can.
Questions after the NBA Draft remain | LayupDrill.com - A Basketball Fans Dream
James Harden was not only one of the best talents available, but fits well into the Thunder’s plan. The pick solidifies Russell Westbrook as their Point Guard of the future and gives them a solid scoring punch at the Shooting Guard position. Harden is one of the more NBA-ready prospects, and will be able to contribute immediately. The lefty can shoot well, uses his solid frame to rebound and has been praised for his highly unselfish game and ability to feel out the game. This again fits well for the Thunder, who have a lot of options in Kevin Durant, Jeff Green and Westbrook.
Rankings of NBA free-agent destinations - Steve Aschburner - SI.com
Oklahoma City: The talent on the roster, and the brainpower in the front office have lots of admirers, and the Ford Center fans can be among the league's most active and loud. But there's no cachet to being the first franchise in, at the big league level, and the Thunder will need to win soon to convince young players to stay or come aboard.
Onward and upward: Looking towards free agency | Daily Thunder.com
Oklahoma City doesn’t really need a big name player. The keys to the car have been turned over to Kevin Durant, Jeff Green, Russell Westbrook and now James Harden. While a Carlos Boozer or Paul Millsap would obviously help right now, signing one of those two could set you back for your long term plans. You’ve got to let your existing parts develop and turn into your breadwinners. One bad free agent signing where you overpay for a player because he had a good postseason can set your franchise back years or leave you scrambling to dump the salary (see: Elton Brand, Philadelphia 76ers). It can decimate your cap room and handcuff you from making solid trades that improve your team. It turns you from a buyer to a seller, even if you’re in the playoff hunt (also see: New Orleans Hornets). And I just don’t think that’s Presti’s way. Maybe it is and maybe he’s got an offer sheet all filled out for Paul Millsap, but I’m just not so sure.
Chris Sheridan: Dead money and cap ballast - ESPN
Nick Collison ($6.25 million against Oklahoma City's cap) - Collison also is on the books for $6.75 million in 2010-11, meaning he'll earn nearly as much money in the next two seasons as Kevin Durant will have earned over the first three seasons of the rookie contract he currently is playing under. The good news for the Thunder: Earl Watson's $6.6 million salary comes off the books next summer, and Collision will come off the cap a year later when Clay Bennett and his partners have to start digging deep to pay veteran money to Durant, Jeff Green and then Russell Westbrook and James Harden. (Another positive note for OKC fans: The Thunder own Phoenix's unprotected 2010 draft pick, which means they could have two lottery picks next June.)
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Any big free agency predictions?
I heard Boozer may go to the Raptors.
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smart move
he wasnt going to make more with detroit bidding against themselves. puts utah is a tough spot with millsap cause even if he only gets an offer for 8 mil this year you are over 80 million in salary, but maybe they pay it for one year knowing they can dump booz next year
I think
Gortat goes to NY. I know he’s not a big name, but a lot of people who post here seem to think he’s the answer to our big man problem.
What’s the word on Varejao? Any interest in him coming to OKC?
by ElectricPencils on Jun 30, 2009 6:11 PM CDT reply actions
I still want Gortat...
But am also leary of the contract we’d have to throw at him. Time for Presti to work his magic again once the bell tolls midnight.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Jun 30, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
from ESPN
Forward Anderson Varejao did not exercise the final year of his contract on Tuesday, making him an unrestricted free agent this summer, a source close to the player told ESPN.com’s Chad Ford. Varejao was slated to make $6.2 million this year if he opted in. Instead, Varejao, who plays a key role defensively for the Cavs, will test the free agent waters, looking for more long-term lucrative deal.
The Cavs are expected to make a big run at re-signing the five-year veteran. He averaged 8.6 points and 7.2 rebounds last season and provided much needed interior strength for Cleveland.
Several other teams, including the Pistons, Thunder and Grizzlies are far enough under the cap to make a competitive offer to Varejao.
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I don't blame him
I wouldn’t mind him starting at the 5 for us.
by ElectricPencils on Jun 30, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
That'd be okay with me, but...
I’m still drooling over next year’s possible draftees. I’d still rather draft Greg Monroe and or Cole Aldrich next year.
Aldrich is a blocker and rebounder. He had 20 rebound and 10 blocks in one game last year. Monroe is an athletic scoring big man.
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That would be nice
but thinking about Aldrich is conceding we’ll be very high in the lottery next year. A lot of people have him in the top 4 taken with Wall, Favors and Davis.
I’m all about building slowly, too, but it’s hard to not want to compete now.
by ElectricPencils on Jun 30, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Keep him...
I like Krstic better than him anyways. Gortat wouldn’t be bad, but he will want way more than hes worth, let NY overpay him.
Do you have any info on that Heytvelt comment?
I can not find any info on that what so ever. Just curious.
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agree completely
i dont think aldrich is a consensus top 4 pick, but he could be. Monroe is probably more of the 8/9 range and would be an excellent pickup for us.
Not sure i buy the gortat to ny thing because it would cut into next year’s cap space, but maybe.
Big NO to Varejao as he thinks he is under paid at 6 million
Well...
Three out of these four mention Aldrich as the possible number one:
NBAdraft.net has him projected at #5 right now.
Given the love affair with big men, I think it’s a safe bet that he’s in the top 5, unless something unexpected happens.
by ElectricPencils on Jun 30, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Well there are plenty of big men to go around.
ESPN rankings: #3. Favors, #4. Monroe, #7. Aldrich, #10. Alabi.
That is if they all declare.
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Apples and Oranges
Favors is a very different player than the other 3 and he is more of Josh Smith PF than the others who play more inside. Im sure Ed Davis was in the ESPN top 10 or he should be.
Others outside the top 10 right now who could rise
Pat Patterson
Gani Lawal
DeMarcus Cousins
well now that depends doesnt it
on who are in the top 5.
Memphis obviously not taking another big
Minnesota probably not taking another big though i believe Aldrich is from Minny so maybe them.
Sacramento has hawes but never know with them
Clippers wont unless Kaman is gone
So like i said depends on who has those picks.
So like i said depends on who has those picks.
Sorry. Don’t see where you said that.
by ElectricPencils on Jun 30, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
...oh
and I’m back :-D
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Jun 30, 2009 6:14 PM CDT reply actions
Welcome back!
I hope I’m not grounded for the Gortat vs. Camby post.
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You Fired!
:p
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Jun 30, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks!
Had an enjoyable vacation!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Jun 30, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
ONE HOUR UNTIL FREE AGENCY
They have a countdown going on sportscenter
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions
From Chris Mannix's Twitter
NBA source tells me that OKC is a potential landing spot for Ben Gordon
If that’s true, I would have to imagine they are going to D-League Weaver and Wilkins is a goner. And then they wouldn’t be signing any other free agents because they’d want to have enough money to sign the big 3 when they become free agents.
Call me skeptical, but I think Presti is going to be a penny pincher for awhile and slowly build the team.
However, I could see how Gordon would be a valuable guy to have. It would give Harden time to ease into the league. Eventually one of the two would have to be traded. Right now, the Thunder really need another big like David Lee in my opinion.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 10:14 PM CDT reply actions
not buying
if presti was planning on doing that he wouldnt have drafted harden. gordon is one dimensional and not worth 11 mil a year that he wants.
Also, from HoopsHype:
Reports already have Oklahoma preparing to offer Milsap a five-year, $65 million contract — something similar to a deal Lee reportedly is seeking.
That would be an impressive 13 million dollars a year. Yikes!
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 10:16 PM CDT reply actions
me neither
just passing along the hot rumors. Given the economy and the tight cap projections, I’m guessing not a lot of teams will spend. The Pistons will probably go out right away and make a couple huge signings.
I think if the Thunder wait, some free agents may bring their prices down.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
plus this way
You have Millsap starting and playing maybe 30-35 minutes and you give Collison maybe 20-25 minutes split between PF (most of his minutes) and C. You can give Krstic a shot at center again, I’m willing to give him a shot.
I actually think DJ White could potentially see some minutes at PF too, in which case you’d probably want an established PF to start and have Collison be the backup center.
I love Collison as a role player, but I think we need to finally spend some money and bring in a PF to round out the roster. Millsap is young, and he can grow with the core.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
gah
And I forgot about Jeff Green too. Well, it would still be nice to have another big. White could move back and forth between the D-league again.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
me neither
I wouldn’t mind getting Milsap though
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry for the double post
firefox doing weird things to me
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
are these
the same reports and rumors that were out there two days ago?
Gordon makes no sense
To piggyback what people have already said, why draft Harden if you’re gonna bring in Gordon? Plus, he is a me first gunner that plays no defense & is undersized at his position. He’s going to Detroit anyway, IMO. Also, ESPN says if Detroit & Chicago are anywhere close he wants to stay in Chicago but I think he’ll bolt to be the man in DRC cuz Rose owns Chi-town.
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If Detroit signs...impact on OKC
Charlie V & Ben Gordon, according to Ric Bucher.
If thats true & we’re going to make an offer to Millsap, HOPEFULLY, it’s not that rediculous 5yr/65mil.
Question for everyone, IF we sign Millsap…does that mean we deal Collison? I would really hate to lose such a quality guy / player but he’s really a PF. Just going with the rumor so don’t bash Millsap, just assume we pay up for him, then what?
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Millsap
for 7 or 8 mil a year you do it and dump nick.
yeah I think the 5yr/$65mil is overstated
That would be way too much for Millsap I think, especially in a free agent market like this – not a lot of buyers, bad economy, cap being lowered, lots of teams flirting with the tax line, etc.
He’ll probably command more than the MLE which was between 5 and 6 mil last year I think. 7-8mil might actually be a good figure.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
i think he can get 9-10 without a problem, especially from Detroit who needs a horse to rebuild around.
Hmmm if it gets close to 10 mil a year
I’d pass on Millsap. They’re going to need all the money they can get when Durant, Westbrook and Green need new contracts.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention at the type of years
Millsap is bound to be looking for, I’d rather not go for 10 million a year.
No.
We’d keep Collison until the center situation is resolved. Mullens if too raw. Krstic can’t do it all alone.
Unless Hardin or Ibaka are really impressive this summer.
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Gortat
if you can get Millsap for the basic equivalent of nicks deal you can spend the money on gortat if that 4/16 number mentioned the other day is out there.
I think Gortat might get more
They could always sign a couple of free agents a bit cheaper, and still have flexibility next year and beyond. Zaza Pachulia averaged a double double for the Hawks last year, and is a serviceable rotation guy at PF or C and can start. Brandon Bass did alright off the bench for Dallas at PF. A guy like that would come much cheaper than a guy like Millsap or Varejao. I think Presti might go after a cheaper guy so he has room to do more in the next few years.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
agree on gortat
and have said as much many times.
zaza
never ever averaged a double double. i agree he is a serviceable option and i believe i mentioned him around here somewhere a couple days ago.
Sorry
I was looking at the per 36 minutes column on basketball reference
Doh!
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
8 for Millsap, 4 for Gortat sounds amazing...
but that isn’t going to happen. Plus that would eat up nearly all our cap space.
Plus ESPN has this on Millsap profile.
News: The Deseret News reports the Jazz intend to offer Millsap a contract good enough to keep him from testing the market.
Spin: Past reports indicated Millsap might cost $8-$9 million per year, but that figure is up to $10 million now. If General Manager Kevin O’Connor means what he says, Utah better be ready to pay up. Given Carlos Boozer’s hesitance to opt out of his large contract, it remains to be seen whether Utah has the cap flexibility to follow through.
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i dont believe it will either
but if that is out there then you do it if not you stand pat.
For the record it wont eat our cap if we dealt nick which is what i said…if you can get those two you dump nick thus it net costs us 5-6 mil.
Obviously Presti would never sign Iverson
But surprisingly nobody is talking about him at all about the free agency period. I have no idea where he’ll wind up. I would bet he’d want a fair amount of money. I think he might go to a team willing to pay the luxury tax. Maybe the Knicks?
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:23 PM CDT reply actions
do you one better
Charlotte to play with larry brown
Agreed
If he plays anywhere it will be with Charlotte or NY…I think it’s funny no one wants him.
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Funny, but
I think Iverson will have a great year
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
NY would be fun for AI but
They need to make room & dump contracts like Presti did when he took over if they want to get it the LeBron Sweepstakes.
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Bad news from Ric
ESPN News did a live interview w/ Ric Bucher & he said OKC has interest in Anderson Varejao or he wouldn’t have opted out. He went on to say he is “their type of player.”
It pains me to post this considering how much I dislike that Sideshow Bob lookalike waste of space that would rather flop against a driving Mugsy Bogues than play defense.
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Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of Varejao
But he would add energy and rebounding down low, something the Thunder could use more of. Plus he can play a little at the 5, so that would give us some added flexibility.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
lord i hope not
he cant play center and he is not better than green and if he thinks he is worth 6-7 mil a year he is sadly mistaken. dont do it presti.
Well he would probably get overpaid
But he can play some center. His PER at center was 17.6, a full point better than his PER at PF. Plus he posted a positive PER differential at center, with a negative one at PF.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
he is as equipped
to guard a real center as jeff green is. so you can call it playing center if you like but i dont think he is capable of truly being a center.
Fingers crossed
Hopefully it’s just a bad rumor but Ric Bucher’s got the inside scoop on everything so I don’t know. I agree he is NOT worth 6-7 mil/yr. Cleveland overpaid for him cuz he’s LeBrons boy & they’ll do anything to make him happy.
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I'm not going to be upset if we sign Varejao
6 mil a year would only be a $500,000 per pay increase from what he earned last year. He posted the 4th best defensive rating in the league this past year and was 9th in defensive win shares. And, 6 mil a year wouldn’t break the bank. We’d still be 6-8 mil under the cap.
Point is that, while we all hate him for flopping, he does the dirty work and tries to assert himself down low. Name ONE player on the roster right now who has a defensive presence in the lane.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I should clarify and say that I WOULD be upset
If we signed him for upwards of 8 mil a year
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point but
I still don’t like him. Spend money on filling out roster with Millsap if we can get him at 7-8/yr. Trade some valuable assets like Collison, Watson, Atkins. We still have 2 possible lottery picks next year in a draft that could potentially have some legit centers. We could even package picks to move up (thats way down the line though).
I read we had interest in Anthony Parker (Tor) but now it looks as if he may sign with a team in Europe. Anyone else we’re looking into to make a small move? What about bring Desmond Mason back cheap?
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we dont need to trade atkins
just dump him and save 2.6 mil as only 780K of his contract is guaranteed.
give me leon powe
if you want an upside dirty work guy go sign powe to an offer sheet.
Powe would be great!
I would stay away from Big Baby though
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
honestly
i think powe with consistent time in boston would be talked about much like millsap is being talked about. i believe if you can ink him for 3-4 years and 3.5-4 mil i would do that in a heartbeat.
No qualifying offer for Powe by Boston
He’s 6’8’’ but plays big down low & yes we could get him super cheap though. Doesn’t he have knee issues?
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Well if they didn't make an offer
he should be an unrestricted free agent. He might be one of those guys that sits on the market for a few weeks and then signs somewhere real cheap
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
i would rather snatch him quick
think of it sort of like livingston’s deal where you sign him for for an extra year while he recovers and then bring him into your system.
i believe he got hurt in the 2nd playoff game but it was just a regular knee injury not like yao as a career ending foot.
rather pay charlie V
that 6-7 in a heartbeat.
Charlie V is all offense and no defense
I’m a Bucks fan too and a Wisconsin native. I’ve seen him play a lot. He’s a GREAT guy. Does lots of work in the community. But he isn’t tough down low. He camps out on the perimeter. He’s basically a really tall, long wing player.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
point is?
you can find guys like varejao for a lot cheaper than 6-7 mil
Yea I guess
We’ll see. I just don’t want to see the Thunder sign another perimeter-oriented big man for the next few years. I mean even Krstic extends his game alot and gets knocked around down low. Unfortunately, Mullens who we just drafted, is described as being a really really tall guy who can move and potentially shoot like a wing forward.
Villanueva would fit the same role Green would. We need a defensive presence in the middle. Millsap, Varejao, Powe, Andersen, a few others, are all good at this. I’m assuming Presti will sign one of them.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
From RealGM
Agent Mark Bartelstein will reportedly have Lee sign an offer sheet with the Grizzlies or Thunder that the Knicks will not be willing to match.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:45 PM CDT reply actions
To follow that up, apparently the Rockets are going hard after Gortat
especially in the wake of Yao’s injury news. That’s being floated around on RealGM right now
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 30, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Makes Sense
They gotta put somebody there. Scola, Landry & Hayes can’t play the 5. Between NY & Hou, they’ll drive the price up too high for Presti.
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gortat is a great fit there
i could also see them sacrificing the beauty of mcgradys deal to get some scoring for this season.
i like lee
but you want to talk about a guy who cant defend. im in ny and watching him in the post is so painful. he will score 18 and give up 25 every night.
Lee or Millsap
They’re kinda like the same player in my opinion. Maybe I’m wrong but neither can really shoot outside of 15 ft, both hustle & board like no other & get a ton of double-doubles. All depends on the numbers, but from what I’ve read both are watching what the other gets cuz they think they’re worth the same. If thats the case, I go Millsap.
Whats up with the rumor that Memphis wants Z-Bo? Why would anyone want a black hole like him?
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much different
Millsap is much better in the post offensively and defensively.
neither can block shots
lee runs the floor much better.
haha on iverson
UPDATE: The Charlotte Bobcats are reportedly interested in adding Allen Iverson, or at least having that conversation, according to an AP report.
Small backcourt
Either Felton or Augustine plus IVO in the backcourt is small but real fast. Larry Brown is gonna give himself a heart attack soon.
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Hedo to Portland?
Thats the most likely destination at about 8-9 mil/yr. according to ESPN. Tomorrow should be full of fun rumors.
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Hedo Turkoglu-G/F-Magic Jul. 1 – 12:03 am et
ESPN’s Ric Bucher reports that free agent Hedo Turkoglu is most likely to sign with the Trail Blazers.
They can offer him about $8 million per season, although he was hoping to cash in for closer to $10 million per.
Remembers when GP & the Reign Man were the best Duo in the NBA, hence the 4020...R.I.P. Seattle Supersonics & welcome Oklahoma City Thunder
so he is going to go straight
not sign and trade…interesting.
Portland would be pretty sick
Turkoglu and Roy? Plus a nice group of other young role players.
by dishingoutdimes on Jul 1, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
this move
makes either outlaw or fernandez expendable. i would love to see an athletic cheap wing like outlaw who can flat out score being instant energy off our bench.
Gotta give it up for the northwest
They’ll building that team deep like when they had Rasheed, O’Neal, Sabonis, Stoudamire, Smith, Pippen & Detlef. Ahh, the good old days.
Remembers when GP & the Reign Man were the best Duo in the NBA, hence the 4020...R.I.P. Seattle Supersonics & welcome Oklahoma City Thunder
could they trade for miller now
outlaw and blake for andre miller?
Bayless, Rudy or Outlaw
This would never happen cuz we simply don’t do deals with Portland cuz the old rivalry. I would love to get Bayless to back up Westbrook, or Rudy/Outlaw for that matter.
Remembers when GP & the Reign Man were the best Duo in the NBA, hence the 4020...R.I.P. Seattle Supersonics & welcome Oklahoma City Thunder
Powe
Leon Powe-F-Celtics Jun. 30 – 11:28 pm et
Danny Ainge said Tuesday the Celtics did not make a qualifying offer to power forward Leon Powe.
This is a tough break for Powe, but the uncertainty of his future after major knee surgery was enough for the C’s to let him go. He could still be signed by the Celtics at some point, but his knee injury is likely to cost him a ton of money either way.
Source: Celtics Blog
Remembers when GP & the Reign Man were the best Duo in the NBA, hence the 4020...R.I.P. Seattle Supersonics & welcome Oklahoma City Thunder
guess i can move this down here too
think of it sort of like livingston’s deal where you sign him for for an extra year while he recovers and then bring him into your system.
i believe he got hurt in the 2nd playoff game but it was just a regular knee injury not like yao as a career ending foot.
Also, the quicker you sign him the more your team doctors can be in charge of his rehabilitation process.
almost like a baseball deal
with a pitcher coming off of TJ
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| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
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Denver
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53 | 29 | .646 | 0 | Lost 1 |
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Utah
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53 | 29 | .646 | 0 | Lost 4 |
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Oklahoma City
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50 | 32 | .609 | 3 | Lost 2 |
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Portland
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50 | 32 | .609 | 3 | Lost 2 |
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Minnesota
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15 | 67 | .182 | 38 | Lost 7 |
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