Thunder Select Harden 3rd; Trade For Mullens from Dallas
The Oklahoma City Thunder selected James Harden with the 3rd pick in the 2009 NBA Draft. Some time transpired and then they drafted Rodrigue Beaubois with the 25th pick. Hold on a second, I'm sure you're saying. This isn't what I see in your title. Ah, that's because the Thunder promptly turned around and swapped Beaubois for BJ Mullens who was selected 24th by the Mavericks.
The big question is, of course, what you think. Luckily we have a poll question for that:
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Welcome to the new thread!
What does everyone think? In the big scheme of things I’m happy. We got a great scorer in Harden who can start at the 2. And we got a project in Mullens who is a risk, but hey, at the 25th pick, who isn’t?
I gave them a B
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
Said C
Not so much for what they did even though i cant stand Mullens but more what could have been.
Deal the 3 for the 5 and the 18 u get Harden and Lawson and then nobody cares if Mullens busts.
Harden is a solid safe pick, even though I wanted Rubio or Curry instead.
And there are a ton of players I’d want over Mullens, but we didn’t give up too much to get him, and, hey, if he works out, I’ll gladly be the first to say so.
could have had rubio
westbrook isn’t a true point, rubio could have been GREAT for this team. Then ew BJ Mullens? NO! he was a bench player in college, he needed to gack and didn’t. just because we need a center doesn’t mean we need to draft a terrible player. there were very good players still left. O well we will be a 30-45 win team next year. I WOULD HAVE LOVED RUBIO. man he would have been great haha o well, Harden is solid
by slamdunkhoops104 on Jun 25, 2009 9:44 PM CDT reply actions
Whoa.
Henry Abbott: Spanish report quoting Ricky Rubio’s dad saying his son will now likely stay in Europe another year or two: http://bit.ly/18MnVr
that would be great
he is going to brow beat minnesota into dealing him to a place he wants to go. this is why you stay away from this kind of prima donna BS that has been floated all through this process. this morning it was minnesota is too cold. grow a set and the cold wont bother you so much since you play indoors
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm biased
I don’t know what Presti sees in Mullens, but I hope to find out soon.
Also Known as "4D" one step beyond 3D
even though im not as high on him
great value there
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm glad
We stayed away from Rubio. We don’t need a circus. Trade or no trade. Knicks have nothing we need. LA has nothing we need. Then you stir up Westbrook. Good job Presti we need to keep flying under the radar.
Go Cubs Go!!!!
Love it.
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night
And no one's gonna save you from the beast about to strike
You know it's thriller, thriller night
You're fighting for life inside a killer, thriller tonight
by blackvanilla on Jun 25, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I give it a B
for Harden, not an A because of Mullens.
by ElectricPencils on Jun 25, 2009 9:56 PM CDT reply actions
I gave Presti an A.
He got exactly what we needed. A good character guy in Harden and a center. It’s anyone’s guess whether the center will turn out but you can never have too many young centers under your control.
Go Cubs Go!!!!
not sure on the character comment
there were multiple reports during this process that were negative comments on harden’s attitude.
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
He sure don't give me that impression
I think the process produces all sorts of that kinda talk because of team’s wanting them to fall.
Go Cubs Go!!!!
im surprised marcus thorton and patty mills r still there
i wouldnt mind a deal that got us patty mills here
The Lakers are known to want to trade their picks
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
what do u think about a patty mills
or marcus thornton, buddinger at this point?
I would love Jeff Adrien, maybe even dionte christmas
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure Presti
Has seen medical records and knows contracts demands etc. We will never know all of that. In Presti I Trust!!!
Go Cubs Go!!!!
From Canus Hoopus, The Wolves Blog
Love freaks out over all the point guards: “what are we doing????? omg we better trade….what are we doing??? i dont even know”
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions
I'm kinda
asking the same question. Wtf are they doing??
Go Cubs Go!!!!
by cubsluver22 on Jun 25, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's see
They drafted 3 point guards and then traded one of the two that actually wants to go to Minnesota.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
sad sad franchise
Makes me appreciate Presti and Bennett that much more.
Go Cubs Go!!!!
by cubsluver22 on Jun 25, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
He was sad he lost his coach
then he expressed the sane ‘wtf?’ reaction everyone else did. I see him as candid. I also happen to love Love’s game.
it's because he's a pampered uppermiddle class kid from lake oswego
he always gets booed when minny comes to portland.
MillsFanBoy
we need to have a discussion about the word great
a guy who shoots 42% from the field and 36% from 3 is not a great shooter. he is a scorer who is a volume shooter
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
For comparison, who do you consider a great shooter?
by ElectricPencils on Jun 25, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
in this draft?
or in the league today?
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
In this draft
Curry, ellington are the best shooters…budinger could be a notch lower
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Curry's stats from '08-'09
FG% 45.4
3pt. FG% 38.7
I don’t see a tremendous amount of difference in the numbers.
by ElectricPencils on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Curry was the only offensive threat on his entire team.
He was playing pretty much 1 on 5 his entire college career.
Meeks to the Bucks
I think he’ll be good
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:05 PM CDT reply actions
He actually reminds me of Redd a little
Both were picked mid first round. Both were pretty good scorers/shooters in college but were underrated in the draft.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Courtesy of Kevin Durant on Twitter:
Wow this draft is crazy…no dejuan Blair, Sam young or chase budinger in the 1st round!!!
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions
adrien, budinger, mills christmas still out there
all could help this team
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions
I'm with you there
I want Christmas
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Minnesota has two of the next 3 picks
Do they trade one of them? They’ve drafted a lot of players already.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 PM CDT reply actions
they have
but how many are they keeping…maybe only 2.
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHA
ANOTHER PG…except he is stashed overseas
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
does dumars have a plan
he has picked budinger and daye r the same player…
Summers and Jerebko play the same spot but much more physical
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 PM CDT reply actions
Big fan of Christmas and Mills
I would love for Presti to trade for one of them
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:18 PM CDT reply actions
any chance some of these guys go UFA?
i dont think Mills does, but Christmas, Adrien
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe Christmas
I thought he had good workouts though. The Thunder could really use some more depth at shooting guard though. I think one of the two of Weaver and Sefolosha will maybe stick as a deep bench guy, but they could use a guy who has a nose for scoring.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
also Chris Johnson of LSU and Wes Matthews of Marquette
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Jerel McNeal from Marquette is good too
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks forgot him
Dom James could be a Jameer type as well but i think he goes to Europe
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
An open ended question here
When do undrafted free agents get signed in the NBA? I know in the NFL they start calling people immediately after the draft. This is an intricacy I never quite picked up.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions
13% of the picks so far have been made by the Timberwolves
That’s pretty absurd
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:26 PM CDT reply actions
They love the not as good brother scenario.
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night
And no one's gonna save you from the beast about to strike
You know it's thriller, thriller night
You're fighting for life inside a killer, thriller tonight
by blackvanilla on Jun 25, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, think I could read down a comment.
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night
And no one's gonna save you from the beast about to strike
You know it's thriller, thriller night
You're fighting for life inside a killer, thriller tonight
by blackvanilla on Jun 25, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
GS Amare
11:23 PM: RUMOR: Marcus Thornton of the Contra Costa Times reports the Warriors are attempting to complete a trade for Amare without giving up Stephen Curry.
Now that would make an Amare haul valuable and they would instantly start rebuilding if ur talking Biedrins, Wright and Curry
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:30 PM CDT reply actions
From Chad Ford about 45 minutes ago:
Just talked to a source inside the Warriors who said that an Amare Stoudemire deal with the Phoenix Suns was “way off, if it ever happens. It’s nowhere close to being done.”
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
screw UTAH
sure now they take the big white guy instead of taking mullens so we could get maynor…yes im bitter about it
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions
I'd have rather had
Suton than Mullens.
by ElectricPencils on Jun 25, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions
good pick for SA again
he can be like james jones who went to miami as well
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:35 PM CDT reply actions
Wow lots of college seniors I forgot about coming off the board
AJ Price now. Christmas and Mills still available. Come on Presti! These picks can’t cost very much right now
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions
exactly
redeem urself for mullens and get a late 2nd round steal…
Christmas, Mills, Adrien
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
He might be waiting to go the UFA route
There are only 7 picks left and lots of good names on the board
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
but if u draft them u dont have to compete with all 30 teams
and agents trying to steer their guy to the best chance of making a squad
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
i know who minnesota should hire as their coach
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:38 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone know when the undrafted free agents start getting signed?
Anyone?
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:42 PM CDT reply actions
Well...
Regular FA signing period starts July 1…maybe then?
by ElectricPencils on Jun 25, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
did houston basically buy 3 2nd rounders?
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:45 PM CDT reply actions
There goes Patrick Mills
finally, jeez
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:45 PM CDT reply actions
and now portland gets mills
this is why u dont wait for UFA
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:45 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, but first the Thunder need a trade partner
Just watch for a team that takes a player that doesn’t seem to fit. We saw that with Budinger and he got traded a couple hours later.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
as cheap as colangelo is
if u offer him lunch he will give up the 57 pick.lol
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
not to be crass
but really what is the difference between Mills and Bayless who went in the lotto last year?
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:46 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I thought the draft went well
Rubio was really only a superior option (on this team) to Harden if we could trade him, and really, how many people saw him in extended play? I’m sure Presti made an informed decision there.
Curry on the other hand could have been an option, Harden seems to look better and better over time — better than expected measurements, athleticism, and speed. And probably underrated defense. And really, in Presti we trust right?
Mullens .. at 25 — why not? Not my favorite pick, but the only other true option to go for would have been Blair or Young or something. Hard to project at that point what the heck the long-term options are. I’m not sure how much more people were expecting out of this draft.
People seem to always overrate the bulk of players — funny how most of these “gems” completely fall off the radar of most of us within 1-2 years.
kahn really is a moron
i thought maybe the other interview with him might be a fluke, but nope.
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:49 PM CDT reply actions
Good night
It was fun.
Thanks to WTLC for the forum.
by ElectricPencils on Jun 25, 2009 10:50 PM CDT reply actions
Thanks for participating
It was a lot of fun! I’m holding out hope there’s one last move from the Thunder.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Mullens
is a high-risk high reward pick but you get him at 25, if he reaches his potential you could end up with a more athletic Zydrudas, if he busts it sucks but its as if we wasted a lottery pick on the guy.
Being in this situation I think will help him. He’s gonna be around young guys that are all still growing and developing, and he’s on a team with no expectations. With Krstic they can bring him along a little slower.
Would have liked a different pick, there were plenty of guys still on the board, but its not a terrible pick, more of a bummer because what is on the board still, but there are gonna be some good guys that go undrafted.
so best players out there
McNeal, Adrien, Christmas, Dozier, Wes Matthews?
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 10:58 PM CDT reply actions
ha...broke that one
for just cash. he can shoot
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
but mcneal, christmas and adrien are better
hopefully we get one of them UFA
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep Vaden to the Thunder
I’m trying to find what I can about him
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 11:00 PM CDT reply actions
Also trying to type out a dope sheet on Harden with all the info I can find on him
And when that’s done I’ll do one on Mullens and Vaden.
I could be working into the weekend lol
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 25, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
what do u want to know
originally went to Indiana and left with Mike Davis. pretty one dimensional as his real skill is scoring
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
older because of the transfer year
somewhere around 24 i believe…had a better junior than senior year. had potential to be late 1st early 2nd last year but thought he could go back and improve his stock
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
not as big as patty mills who had 2 years left
came out thinking he was a late 1st and got picked 55.
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Also older because he may have redshirted
Injured a lot.
Teammates with DJ White before. My Indiana friend raved about him before.
A lot of interesting undrafted FAs out there
Adriens, John Bryant, Christmas, Dozier are all worth a look, imo
dozier went with the last pick
not big on John Bryant but Adrien, Christmas, McNeal, Matthews
by Michael Gleich on Jun 25, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Good job getting the first guy you wanted
[bulls depression]
[what the **** were we doing with the 26th pick]
[more bulls depression]
Yay watching the Thunder next year when I can!
-I was wrong about Pau Gasol. I have been shamed. :(
First dope sheet out
All the information I could find on Harden is posted
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 26, 2009 12:22 AM CDT reply actions

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