Rumor: Thunder Looking To Sell The 25th Overall Pick
From NBADraft.net, the Thunder are looking like sellers in the "late first round" market:
Expect a flurry of action on draft night, which has become the norm in recent years, and a number of first and second rounders to be sold and traded.
Teams with multiple picks such as Sacramento (23), Oklahoma City (25) and Chicago (26) are all looking to sell their picks according to sources. While three other teams would like to buy picks late in the first round: San Antonio, Detroit and Houston.
Joe Dumars has his eye on Toney Douglas and would like to pick up a late first to grab him. San Antonio is likely after Victor Claver who suspiciously remained in the draft, despite a lackluster and injury plagued season. No word on who Houston is after, but Rockets GM Daryl Moray was on hand in Treviso as Swedish SF Jonas Jerebko put on an excellent performance.
Take it for what's worth, but where there's smoke there's usually fire. Sam Presti has shown that he isn't afraid to pull the trigger on a deal if he thinks it will help the franchise. If he gets a player he wants with the #3 pick, I wouldn't be surprised to see him trade the lower pick to grab an established veteran player.
More about trade proposals after the jump!
So, with that I have a homework assignment for everyone - drum up some trade proposals with the three teams NBADraft.net has listed as wanting to "buy picks": San Antonio, Detroit, and Houston. Here's a list of some players for each team that could be a fit for the Thunder, but of course feel free to include others:
San Antonio: Bruce Bowen, Matt Bonner, Michael Finley, Kurt Thomas
Detroit: Rip Hamilton, Kwame Brown, Tayshaun Prince, Arron Affalo, Amir Johnson
Houston: Brian Cook, Carl Landry, Chuck Hayes, Brent Barry, Kyle Lowry
You may think that Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince seem like awfully big names to be on the trade market, but Detroit appears to be open to dismantling their core (see: Chauncey Billups trade) in order to make a play for the 2010 free agent market. Houston and San Antonio are both solid teams that were in the top half of the west, so they are more likely to hang on to their more valuable pieces.
Also keep in mind, when posting a trade proposal, that the better the player the other team is giving up, the more likely it is that the Thunder would need to throw in a player or two in addition to the pick.
I already know which trade I would try to make, but I'll let you guys have at it first!
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Trade Bait
I would love to trade away Watson, Livingston, (maybe even Wilkins!) and the 25th pick for someone. Watson because he expects to get traded and nobody wants him back next year. Livingston because he will have a great year next year and then not come back to OKC because he will get big bucks somewhere else to start. He said the only reason he came to OKC was to get minutes so he could prove himself worthy. Wilkins because he will never play and he takes up salary money.
by slamdunkhoops104 on Jun 21, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions
heres an idea
what if the thunder buy the 21 pick from NO and then take the 25 and move down with SA for cash and the 37 or the 37 and a future first.?
that way at 21 they can grab a PG like Maynor or Lawson if they are there and at 37 grab a big man like Taj Gibson or Pendergraph or even Jeff Adrien.
Any of those big men would be nice...
or Bruce Bowen. And gladly would give up Atkins, Watson, and even Nick Collison for a big man in return.
NO...
OKC should keep this pick, they can get talent at the 25 spot. They aren’t in a phase to be selling off picks right now they need to acquire all the talent they can.
And a huge no to Bruce Bowen, why would you want him? He’s past his prime and he’s close to giving you absolutely nothing now. He cannot defend the elite wing players anymore, Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Roy, Melo all own him.
ok, if they do trade the pick to…
Detroit… go for Tayshaun Prince – he is the youngest, effective guy on Detroit, (except for Stuckey who they would not trade) can defend 2-3 positions, and can provide a nice scoring punch… OKC gives up Nenad Krystic and drafts Thabeet #3 (pray that he is not a bust)
To San Antonio – Matt Bonner and money for the pick… maybe try to sign a free agent big man…draft Harden, Evans or Rubio – Evans I would think – has great upside and can score as a slasher… would fit in with the team well
Houston – in a crazy great trade … T-Mac… give up the pick, draft Thabeet, give Houston Krystic, Livingston, and Mason… then figure out money situation to line up contracts
I was actually thinking the Rockets may be offering T-Mac
Look at how well they did in the playoffs without him. He has this injury, which if I recall correctly, I heard Jalen Rose say on the ESPN NBA show that guys find very difficult to come back from.
The Thunder could take a shot on him, draft Thabeet and wind up with a starting lineup of: Thabeet, Green, Durant, T-Mac, Westbrook. I’m not sure if T-Mac can come back from the injury though.
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 21, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
nope...
prince does not help us at all since he plays the 3 and KD is not moving back to the 2 especially not to pay prince 10 mil a year.
T-Mac is always hurt and never gets a team over the hump and i believe unloading his salary would help houston more than us assuming they dont have to take back significant salary from us. not to mention people without contracts cannot be traded so can everyone stop putting them in deals. Mason, David Lee, Nate Robinson. If you are going to be an RFA or a UFA on July 1st you cannot be dealt until you have a new deal.
a scenario to sell the 25.
I talked about this a couple months ago and people laughed that the Wizards would never do it but the rumor is back around once again.
“This time the Wizards are shopping their pick while asking teams to take on Etan Thomas.’ salary.”
We have 18 million in cap space so to take on a bum like thomas for a year to get a shot at the 5 pick is nothing. I figure if we took two guys from them who make money but are worthless and give them a solid vet who can contribute we can get that pick. Collison to Was for the 5 and expiring deals of Thomas and Mike James. The wizards do it because between salary and luxury tax this deal saves them 13 million dollars next year and they get a vet who can give them 10 and 10 a night while Flip doesnt have to break in a rookie.
Having the 5 pick gives Presti all sorts of options in either moving down from the 3 or combinations of players to pick. He could take Thabeet at 3 if he is there and Harden should still be there at 5 as he fills no need for Sac. If thabeet is taken at 2 presti can move down with a team that loves rubio and still get harden at 5. The knicks dont have much they can deal other than Chandler and the 8, which i dont think is enough cause there is so much uncertainty about who would be there at 8, though i do like chandler. Another team might be minnesota who if we could get the 6 and the 18 off of them we could easily sell the 25 pick and have a great draft with a combination of Harden at 5, Hill at 6 and Maynor/Lawson at 18. Hill is not a center but he can be a shot blocking presence or there is always a deal for Camby for a year.
If Harden goes to Memphis at 2 i would certainly rather make a trade like the one with Minnesota assuming we had the Washington pick because at 5 we could still get Thabeet, 6 Curry and then 18 BPA (James Johnson, Maynor, Lawson, Terrence Williams)
any response is welcome just please try to make sure the players you are going to talk about trading can actually be traded. thanks.
That'd be amazing if possible.
Owning the 3 and 5 picks would be great. Etan did play ball for Booker T. Washington in Tulsa. So he has Oklahoma connections.
Also Known as "4D" one step beyond 3D
I would
support taking Thabeet at #3 if we were also getting Harden or Curry at #5.
The way you lay it out, sounds like a pretty good deal, even though I usually don’t like to take salary dumps from other teams.
by ElectricPencils on Jun 22, 2009 1:11 PM CDT reply actions
thats funny
people say they dont like salary dumps but lets think of the last set of them that presti took on.
Kurt Thomas netted us Ibaka, the 25 this year and phoenix’s 1st next year.
Taking the salary dump of Wally was what allowed us to get out from under Ray’s deal and get Green.
Other players on this team could be called salary dumps as well but they were mostly met with equal salaries going back to other teams (Mason, Joe Smith, Malik rose).
Great for the Thunder
Absolutely on our end. Get the 5th pick & 2 overpaid bums that would come off the books in a year but help Washington with some cap space & gain a solid backup PF. Why would our deal be better than what the Mavs are offering in possibly Jason Terry or even Josh Howard? Granted everything out of Washington is saying they would rather have a proven veteran but this deal seems like a long shot, unfortunately, cuz I would love it.
Today there are rumors swirling the NY Knicks & Washington are talking trade involving the 5th pick for Larry Hughes (generally speaking, there’s more to the trade though).
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