Free Agent Targets: Marcin Gortat?
Since we still have a few weeks before the lottery, I thought we could take some time and look at some free agents that might potentially have a new home in Oklahoma City next season. Today, we're going to look at a guy who could add some much needed depth at Center, and we all know that we need help on the inside, especially at the Center position. Shortly before the Trade deadline, everyone out there in Thunderland seemed to be pretty ecstatic about the Thunder pulling off the trade for Tyson Chandler. That was until the trade was rescinded and the Thunder once again were left without a long term solution at Center. Enter Marcin Gortat? Possibly, although he's probably not going to be that dominant center we're looking for to win a Championship. One thing is for sure, the Thunder should at least give him a look when the free agent market opens up this summer.
So by now, you may be asking, who the hell is Marcin Gortat? He's the Polish Hammer of course! Geez, where have you been? Seriously though, Marcin is a backup center for the Orlando Magic, and when Dwight Howard isn't wreaking havoc on opposing teams, Marcin Gortat is one of the guys who is stepping in to give him a break. At 25 years of age, he's in the midst of finishing up just his second season in the NBA. He progressed enough during the off season that his game appearances went up from just 6 games last season, all the way up to 63 games this season. During those games, he's averaged about 12 minutes, 4 points, 4 boards, and a block per game, not bad for about a quarters worth of playing time. You can see how we think he could fit in with the Thunder, after you make the leap...
So if he isn't likely to be that dominant center we are looking for, why are we looking at him as a possible free agent acquisition? Well, right now, we're not likely to be getting our hands on any dominant Centers anytime soon, and the deal Oklahoma City gave Nenad Krstic last season shows that the Thunder are committed to giving him the opportunity to become the player he was before his injury. Currently the Thunder are rotating Nick Collison onto the floor when its time to give Nenad a breather. As much as I love Nick Collison, and as much as he's willing to dole out and take punishment against opposing centers, he's much more suited to play at the power forward position. The addition of Gortat would give Nick the chance to play his more natural position more often, and the Thunder will still be able to take some pressure of Krstic by throwing Gortat out there as his tag-team partner, so to speak.
He's also another one of those prototypical Sam Presti type guys that will fit in well with the rest of the group. He's got a positive attitude, is a hard worker, a team player, and is a solid defender. The improvement he made from his Rookie NBA season to this season may be attributed to having Dwight Howard as a mentor, which is easily one of the best you could ask to have as a center looking to improve. After all, Dwight seems to be the "IT" guy nowadays in terms of what teams are hoping to get when they draft some of these young 7 footers. Anybody who followed this team before the move to OKC can attest, that's not exactly easy to find. Now, don't get it twisted either, I'm not saying that this guy is going to play like Dwight either, just saying it doesn't hurt that he's been able to learn and grow behind one of the best around.
If for nothing else, just compare him to Robert Swift. Are there any Thunder fans out there that question whether or not Gortat would be a MAJOR upgrade over swift? I didn't think so, and if there are, they probably need to go have their head examined. As a matter of fact, send them over to my office, I've got a nice slab of concrete I can slam their head into for awhile until they regain their senses. Gortat has tremendous upside and should be able to be brought in for a marginal price, he's certainly not going to be fetching a huge contract unless Howard goes down in the playoffs and Gortat suddenly turns into Superman and leads them to an NBA Finals victory and becomes the finals MVP. In that situation, he may not be our best option because the price would skyrocket, but look, that's just not going to happen now is it? No.
Bottom line, he's a good character guy, a big body, a defensive minded team player who can grow and improve with more minutes and should be pretty productive in a lineup that is in serious need of an identity inside. It could be the perfect match. If he were to sign and get say, 20 MPG, I think he could average 8 points and 8 rebounds per game and be pushing for a double double almost every time out. That's not to mention that he could up his blocks per game, anywhere from 1.5 to 2.5 with that kind of increased and sustained playing time. He could end up being a very nice fit, and more than fill the shoes left by Robert Swift. What do you guys think about Gortat? What do you think about him in Thunder Blue next season?
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I'm curious to hear what people think about this guy...
Think he fits in OKC?
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...oh and for the more casual Thunder Fans
who aren’t following the playoffs, if you want to see this guy play, Orlando is still in the playoffs, so you haven’t missed your chance yet.
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Several more notes...
Gortat will be a “Restricted” free agent, so teams making offers will have to at least make them lucrative enough that the Magic will feel like it’s too expensive to keep him around.
Also, Dwight is suspended for tonights game, so Gortat will be getting the start and you can see him play tonight if you aren’t familiar with him. I think he fits the mold that the Thunder are looking for and could grow into the type of center that the Thunder are looking for with more playing time next season.
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They've already admitted that they probably can't keep him
Otis Smith said it a few months ago. They’re committed to staying under the luxury tax threshold and they actually need to cut payroll to get there. What they should do is let Turkoglu walk and give Pietrus and Lee his minutes next year, if they did that then they could afford to keep Gortat.
The biggest competition for the Thunder signing Gortat will be European teams.
If he can eanr a check in the NBA I think he will....
a lot of Euro teams have been having money issues of late, notably some of the Russian powerhouses, who have been also shedding payroll.
Ya, so I completely misread that. lol. Oops, glad it was a comment and not in the post :p
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 6, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
USA Today has a nice piece...
…on Gortat today on the NBA page of the print Newspaper. I’m posting from my phone so I can’t link the story on USAToday.com if it’s up over there. I’m sure it is.
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Here it is...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/magic/2009-05-05-marcin-gortat_N.htm
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15 rebounds,11 points, 4 steals (didn’t mention blocks) are not bad numbers for his first playoff start. I will take him for swift and a half money for sure. I am really hoping for Chandler or West from the hornets next year. There was a espn article last week about the hornets need to shed money and West beinf the most likely to go for various reasons. Give me Rubio, and West or Chandler, throw in Gortat and sit back and watch for three years. OK, I just talked myself into it.
sorry to continue the off-topic. Here is the story:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=Hornets-090430
You won’t be seeing Tyson Chandler in Oklahoma City. They are closed the door on that. Looking at how many games he missed since the rescinded trade, I think it was the best decision, especially considering his salary.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 6, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Mister P, that was a lot of comments to your own post.
From what I’ve seen of Gortat, especially down the last half of the season, “The Polish Hammer” looks strong and has good rebounding skills. I could see him as a solid bench player for the Thunder. I would worry about giving away too much for him though, since he is an RFA. I’m also not sure that the Magic wouldn’t be interested in a few of those expiring contracts that you hold in your pocket like so many coins.
I would say make a play for him. He’s solid, and fairly young. Nothing is a better career booster than solid playoff experience either. I could see next season being the first where Gortat plays consistent solid ball for the entire year.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 6, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
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What can I say? Mister P is his own biggest fan!
That’s why he talks in 3rd person all the time!
Also, the blog is barely even 4 months old so I’m still trying to gain an active base of commentors on the site, and I generally try to post at least one comment in an effort to get the ball rolling.
Also, thanks for stoppin by to leave a comment and for the kind words IBPC, much appreciated!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 6, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 6, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
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in thinking about it…I can really see this working if all the financials fall into place. This year’s draft is short on big men (pun intended), and the Thunder are looking for solid big men to contribute to the stellar backcourt they’ve assembled. Gortat fits the bill for that role.
I think so too, he’d fit quite nicely.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 6, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Curious Mr P
Who do you think OKC would prefer to have in the draft if they had their choice of player?
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 7, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
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Bench player? Are you nuts? The guy plays behind the best center in the league, on all but 3 or 4 teams he is a starter. His rebounds per minute played is 3rd in the league and he is number 1 in the league in blocks by that standard. True, that can’t be driven across a 35-40 minute performance, but you get the drift.
No plays are run for him, so all his points are garbage points and looking at those you are talking a guy putting up somewhere between 14-16pts a night as a starter (adjusting to reality). The Magic were 3-1 with him as a starter before the playoff game). The dude is also athletic as hell, and can do dunks from the foulline ala Dr. J.
As a Magic fan I hope to God we keep him, but I doubt it as we need to pay the Turk to stay and so there will be no way to match a free agent bid. Durants the only guy on your crappy team better than him. You also seem to forget he is 25 with less than a season and a half of NBA ball under his belt. He didn’t even play bball until age 17. In about 2 years this Gortat could potentially be a C or PF.
If the fans in OKC are this shortsighted I hope to God he goes somewhere else. http://www.thirdquartercollapse.com/2009/3/17/801451/vescey-marcin-gortat-will
He also plays just 12 minutes a game. Who is to say he will be just as productive playing 35 minutes over the course of an 82 game season. There really is no evidence to show that he’s ready to be a starter for anyone over the course of an entire season.
Like you said, he’s only in his 2nd season, 25 years old, still young and developing, and playing behind a veteran like Nenad Krstic and playing 25 or so minutes per game next season before moving to a starting role could be crucial toward his longterm development into what you are already saying he is, a dominant center in the NBA.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 7, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Was just thinking while watching the cav replay how nice it would be to have Delonte West and Westbrook together for the next 4 years.
Yeah, I like Delonte too. Don’t worry, this team should get immensely better over the coming months.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 8, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think the Thunder need more depth/bench guys...
They have some of the most cap room in the league. They need to be smart with it, but also need to be bold and go out and get a big time player to throw out there with Durant. While I’m sure Marcin Gortat is a decent bench player, the Thunder have too many guys that could be potentially molded into good role players for certain roles. They need:
*A shooter: Durant can light it up but I’m hard pressed to find another great shooter on this team. Westbrook could get there, and I think he’ll eventually nail down his shot and become a combo guard that starts at the 2. Still, it’s not hard to find a 6th man type shooter for cheap on the free agent market (especially in this economy). Most playoff teams have this type of guy. See Eddie House for the Celts. The Thunder need a guy who can be easy points off the bench.
*A distributer: Call me crazy, but I don’t know if Westbrook will ever get there as a distributing PG. If you take Durant, have Westbrook improve his shot, keep Jeff Green, and sign a free agent or two that can rack up the points, you’ll need someone who can just cut to the hoop and set up all of these guys. There seems to be plenty of promising young PGs in the draft class.
*A guy who can hold his own in the middle: Krstic is one of those guys better suited to be a PF because he’s not that strong and he extends his game out too much. The Thunder need a big body that can hold his own down low. Blake Griffin clearly comes to mind, even though he’s more of a high flyer, playing-above-the-rim type. Griffin can still grab boards. He needs to work on his post defense. Still, there appears to be some nice big bodies available in the offseason.
The thing is, the Thunder have all of this cap room because they have a bunch of cheap contracts, and a bunch of bench/depth type guys. That sets them up perfectly, especially in an offseason where a bunch of teams will likely try to unload some contracts. The thunder can trade a few depth guys like Atkins, Rose, Livingston, Weaver, etc. and get a big name in return. That’ll put more people in the seats, improve the team, and give the Thunder another better scoring option to boot.
If I were the Thunder, I’d sign a guy like Ben Gordon, trade for a guy like Marcus Camby or Kendrick Perkins, and draft a PG since the class is so strong. Let the PG you drafted come off the bench to be a slasher/distributer, and start something like Camby/Krstic/Durant/Gordon/Westbrook.
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by dishingoutdimes on May 10, 2009 11:17 AM CDT reply actions
For all that is good...
Please, please, please NO Ben Gordon. There will be plenty of players that can be had for much cheaper that provide the same thing Ben does: score. And with KD for crunch time, it seems pointless to sign Ben.
To be honest, I am fine with the guard situation. With no rush to buy a championship we can allow the group of Livingston, Weaver, Westbrook and Thabo to develop. I am much more worried about finding a compliment to our bigs. I’d really like to see the Thunder make a run for a FA big (Magloire, JO7, Gooden or Etan Thomas come to mind)
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by IShootFours on May 11, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree about the big
The Thunder do need a big, but Thabo is more of a defensive specialist, I think Westbrook will eventually be a 2 (at the very least never really a true PG), Livingston is a project coming off the injury and I’m not sold on Weaver.
There’s a reason the Thunder went 23-59. They were starting a bunch of bench players. While these guys played hard, there’s a big upgrade to be had at several positions.
I say let Westbrook play the 2 and spend the entire offseason working on his jumper, then draft one of the elite PG’s in this draft class.
I can see what you’re saying about Gordon. Nobody else came to my mind as a free agent pure shooter though.
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by dishingoutdimes on May 11, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Marcin Gortat would be an excellent signing for the Thunder — heck, he’d be an excellent signing for anyone.
I believe he’d be the second best player on the team behind Durant and that his addition could make the Thunder a .500 team … and they could be better than that if some of the youngsters grow, or the lottery pick becomes a stud, or they make a nice acquisition via a trade or free agency.
I have no doubts about Marcin Gortat’s ability to keep his production at a high level in more minutes. I think if he you give him 35 minutes a night he’ll contribute 9-12 points, 10-12 rebounds and play very good defense. In other words, he’s a player who’ll have a major impact on the game without ever needing the ball in his hands, and that quality will be the perfect complement for the youngster’s continued development.
Gortat is similar to a Tyson Chandler type player … except he gives you 90% of the performance level for about a third of the cost.
If Gortat did come to Oklahoma, there is no way he’d play behind Krstic — even if Krstic regained his best form — or Nick Collison. What Gortat can do in terms of defense + rebounding is far more valuable than what either of these two players bring to the table.
I like the idea of Gortat and Green together. I think they complement each other nicely. Then having Collison off the bench, so the team can either go real big, or smaller, very nice. Those three would make a good big man rotation.
One final thought — Gortat is incredibly athletic. He’d look good in an uptempo offense and good alongside those quick young Thunder players.

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