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Ladies and Gents, 4D reporting for duty! I've been scouring the internet to provide you with some Thunder-related goodness. Maybe it should be "possible" Thunder- related goodness, since most of today's links are about possible draftees. One quick quote before we get started. The Maloof brothers just spoke about a discussion they had with President Obama:

So, if President Obama is okay with Thabeet, maybe we should give the kid a chance? I dunno, maybe the President is biased against Spaniards? So without further ado, let the Loud Links begin!

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Jrue Holiday: "I'm a Floor General"

Draftexpress | Joey Whelan | May 28, 2009... I’m really trying to improve my jump shot because people don’t think I have one. You can always improve ball handling too. I’m working on being able to shoot coming off of screens and just making better decisions. Being at these workouts isn’t always 1-on-1 stuff, there’s going to be 2-on-2 and 3-on-3 drills, so it’s important to make smart decisions.

NBA teams scope out prospects in Chicago

The Sacramento Bee | Sam Amick | May 28, 2009... Oklahoma's Blake Griffin, the consensus No. 1 pick, is here like most of the big-name prospects for the June 25 draft in New York. He will be weighed, measured, asked to jump and perform agility drills. And he will be interviewed, which is perhaps this event's most relevant aspect in its current structure. Teams can request 18 interviews, as they try to learn more about each player's mental makeup while conducting the session in a hotel room.

Draft Offers Quality Far Beyond No. 1

Thunder.com | Chris Silva | May 27, 2009... As far as point guards go, there’s Orlando’s Rafer Alston, who was the 39th pick of the 1998 draft. Through the first four games of the Eastern Conference Finals, he’s easily outplayed his counterpart, Cleveland’s Mo Williams, who garnered attention for guaranteeing a Cavs’ trip to the NBA Finals. Williams, by the way, was drafted 47th in the 2003 draft, and was widely considered one of the biggest acquisitions of last summer.

Examining Birdman and other playoff anti-heroes

Fox Sports | Randy Hill | May 28, 2009... The Nuggets' Birdman looks something like a prehistoric peacock in the midst of a sartorial crisis. After serving a two-year suspension for violation of the league's substance-abuse policy, Andersen has carved out a niche as a poor man's Dennis Rodman. While earning the nod for hero in Denver, he's a real villain to Lakers fans who've been witnessing "Birdman" flying around for rebounds and dunks while the big guys they're supporting remain ground-bound.

Some telling stats for Russell Westbrook and his point guard-ness

Daily Thunder | Royce | May 27, 2009... Now it’s easier for a point guard to take shots early in the clock, because they have the ball first. But Russ taking so many shots early shows his “shoot first, pass later” mentality. It’s something that he absolutely has to overcome if he wants to be a successful point guard in this league. I thought the last month and half he was much, much better at looking to set his teammates up first and looking to shoot later, but he sacrificed his ability to score and his efficiency numbers took a hit. He’s a scoring point guard, whichever way you want to look at it. But he can also be a guy that makes players better around him too.

Will Birdman fly south to OKC?

Daily Oklahoman | Berry Tramel | May 28, 2009... The Birdman is just what the Thunder needs, an interior defensive presence. Despite making just one start and averaging just 20.6 minutes per game, the Birdman placed second in the league in blocked shots, his 2.5 per game trailing only Dwight Howard’s 2.9.

Is Jrue Holiday a Top 5 Pick?

Hoopsworld | Alex Raskin | May 28, 2009... Prior to landing a pick in Ricky Rubio territory (third overall), the Thunder were rumored to be enamoured with Holiday's play. When I spoke with Head Coach Scott Brooks about the possibility of moving Russell Westbrook to create a two-point guard offense, he seemed very open to it. The people who have Holiday lower on the draft boards are probably skeptical of his outside shot (he made only 30% of his 3-pointers at UCLA) and equally concerned about his poor assist to turnover ratio (1.72).

Ex-OCS star preps for NBA

Edmond Life and Leisure | Steve Gust | May 28, 2009... Earlier in the day, Griffin appeared on ESPN in an interview and was again his humble self, somewhat stunning the interviewer calling him "Sir." The prospect of further fame, endorsement deals and eight and nine digit salaries haven't changed the former Edmond basketball player. He's still the son of Gail and Tommy Griffin and younger brother of Taylor, who he played with at both OCS and OU.

Tyson Chandler has surgery for injuries

Associated Press | May 27, 2009... The New Orleans Hornets say center Tyson Chandler and forward James Posey both had successful surgeries for their injuries. Team spokesman Dennis Rogers said late Tuesday that Chandler had a procedure on his left ankle to relieve inflammation and another on his left toe.

Gortat Pricing Himself Out of Orlando?

Hoopsworld | Jason Fleming | May 26, 2009... But what about Gortat? He was a forgotten man much of the season, playing just 12.6 minutes in 63 games (after just six games as a rookie) and averaging 3.8 points and 4.5 rebounds on 57% shooting. Those are solid numbers in those minutes, and the Magic liked what they saw enough to want to keep him, but they were hoping Gortat could slide under the radar and they could lock him up for a few years at minimal dollars.

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Wasting no time jumping all over his first crack at Loud Links! Kudos, and great job. Lot of interesting articles in that list.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks!

Since I accepted the role, I had to restrain the urge post too much info. Y’know until everything was official. It feels good to finally be set loose.

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by daddydai on May 28, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

You got a lot of links in there for your first edition. I think this will greatly help our core audience get to the info they are looking for on a regular basis along with our own content. Nice first effort, look forward to more.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mr. P...

Whose brain-child was the Loud Links?

Great idea! It saves allot of time scouring through various search engine sources, and wading through the un-related or redundant content.

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

A lot of Bloggers out there do links...

We used to as well, mostly when the blog was at Thunder in OKC, we called it the “Thunderoll” but Loud Links was inspired by the growing population of readers and commentors that WTLC has picked up over the last month. We want to continue to give our readers new content, and also be their main hub for all things Thunder.

…There was a more specific reason as well, but I can’t really say anything about it publicly at this time.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kinda Curious....

What is the current size of your opt-in list for this site? Is that publish-able?

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

opt-in list?

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

if there is, Iceman would be the one to find it.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Burn....

I’ll work on the graphics for it.

by Aisander D on May 28, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can’t wait to see that. No manass though.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude seriously....

That was Rumble….and that one time I posted a link for TorosGirls….which didn’t actually include any “manass” just “manabs”

by Aisander D on May 28, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh

no manabs either. I’ll take Torosgirls though….do they look as young as 66er girls? I seriously felt like a pedophile checking those girls out and I’m only 27.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha yeah....

me too. There were many points in the D-League season that made me feel like a pedophile.

by Aisander D on May 28, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

manass? Is that plural for mana. Like manass from heaven? Okay, that’s too much. I’ll stop.

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by daddydai on May 28, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

No...

Man Ass….that’s who we roll at RU. Scott almost banned me that day I think.

by Aisander D on May 28, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scott won't ever ban you

You post like 56 comments….sometimes per hour over there. You’re a valuable commodity my friend.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do what I do....

gotta keep Scott from getting depressed and just posting pictures of Minot Skyrockets former players.

by Aisander D on May 28, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not afraid to ban you

Just an FYI.

Blogging at RidiculousUpside, where we converse with recently fired mascots.

by Scott Schroeder on May 29, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

It should be noted...

Scott banned his own mom, so….

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 29, 2009 4:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha...

I’m girding my loins…

by Aisander D on May 29, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

See

If you said that at RU, you’d probably be banned. We don’t take kindly to phrases that haven’t been used since the ’40’s or in the Movie The Devil Wears Prada.

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by Scott Schroeder on May 29, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well Chim-Chim-Charee Scott...

“Keep that schoolgirl complexion with Palmolive soap!”

by Aisander D on May 29, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

WoW

That was great.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 29, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

do you want out?

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by daddydai on May 28, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha no...

I gotsta get my Thunda info somewheres.

by Aisander D on May 28, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

:)

Membership.

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah...

Hmm I’m not sure if its publicly listed anywhere or not, but its funny you should ask that question with the post that’s currently coming up in the morning.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would be interesting to unofficially chart the growth....

…of OKC fan-ship (is that a word?). I would love to know how things such as playoff appearances, and draft moves affect team interest.

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I gotta see if they’ll let me get Google analytics on here. I know SBN uses site meter and all but I miss my Google Analytics for checking out traffic and referrals and such.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

The analytics would be sweet!

I could actually see the team wanting those types of stat compilations. Knowing what FO decisions positively and adversely affect fan interest.

That would be hot!

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Loud Links! Loud Links! Long Licks!

Religion is the emulation of the adult by the child. Religion is the encystment of past beliefs: mythology, which is guesswork, the assumptions of trust in the universe, those pronouncements which men have made in search of personal power, all of it mingled with shreds of enlightenment. And always the ultimate unspoken commandment is "Thou shalt not question!" But we question. We break that commandment as a matter of course. The work to which we have set ourselves is the liberating of the imagination, the harnessing of imagination to humankind's deepest sense of creativity.

by blackvanilla on May 29, 2009 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Licks?

is that a typo?

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by daddydai on May 29, 2009 6:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

No typo there....

He and I are just testing the limits of bannable behavior.

by Aisander D on May 29, 2009 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

No you’re too funny, or is it the psychotropics?

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by daddydai on May 29, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

All of the above?

I strive for funny…usually get off the bus somewhere near ironic.

by Aisander D on May 29, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Naw, just threw in my favorite line from a skin flick!

Religion is the emulation of the adult by the child. Religion is the encystment of past beliefs: mythology, which is guesswork, the assumptions of trust in the universe, those pronouncements which men have made in search of personal power, all of it mingled with shreds of enlightenment. And always the ultimate unspoken commandment is "Thou shalt not question!" But we question. We break that commandment as a matter of course. The work to which we have set ourselves is the liberating of the imagination, the harnessing of imagination to humankind's deepest sense of creativity.

by blackvanilla on May 29, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice dig on Griffin...

How in the world could anyone NOT want the FO to do anything it takes to move up and grab this kid?

In an NBA world of tatted out cry-babies (not that having tattoos makes you a malcontent), how refreshing is it to see the newest soon-to-be-millionaire calling a reporter “sir”??? This is exactly the kind of kid you want representing your franchise fellers.

MAKE THIS WORK!

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:10 PM CDT reply actions  

If anything

included packaging Westbrook or Green in the trade, then I’m someone who doesn’t want to trade up for Griffin.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think Green would be untouchable though...

Westbrook would be off-limits in my book as well, but Green becomes somewhat of a tweener if Griffin is a Thunder.

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Green probably isn't untouchable...

but I think Green plus our #3 overall pick is too much to give away for Griffin. Essentially its like trading a #3 overall and a #5 overall for Griffin, and I’m not of the opinion thats in the best interest of the team.

Plus its basically two players for 1, and one of those two players is supposed to be part of our young core leading us into the future, and in my head, its like we fall another year behind because we lose one of our top young guns.

Green is versatile enough that they can always find a role for him somewhere in the rotation where he can be productive, even if that means coming off the bench down the road.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice slight of hand Mr. P.....

I saw you repost in the correct reply to my comment. Nice having the “sim city” god controls (LOL).

Yeah I agree with your assessment of the Green situation, but can see it both ways. Griffin would make the team a near lock for postseason play in 2010, but the “step back” would be tough to swallow for many fans looking to see progression.

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

When I say step back...

I liken it to the Seahawks dishing Ju-P, and then drafting Aaron Curry. It was a great decision that raised some eyebrows in the Seahawk fan community (perceived lateral move).

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah would anyone not named Kevin Durant...

be untouchable? I would assume Blake Griffin and KD would be a formidable enough match up to require moving several pieces.

by Aisander D on May 28, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do agree with this...

Griffin is such a beast down low that KD (I am assuming we all agree that KD is a small forward, not a SG) would have more room outside of 15 feet.

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed about SF

Don’t want to see KD back at the 2 fulltime.

…going back to the trade for Griffin, I’d be </3 if the Thunder trade RW0. My Mancrush would have to end. :-(

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Without Question...

Westbrook is as untouchable as KD in my opinion…

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice use of </3

you’re a couple “h8rs” and “ur” away from commenting like a 14 year old girl.

by Aisander D on May 28, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

If only...

you and Scott are like the Charles Barkley and D-Wade of SBN texters.

by Aisander D on May 28, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

does that mean they’ll have to pull your hamstring?

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by daddydai on May 28, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Am I now Dwight Howard?

I have yet to knock up a member of a dance team….but I’ll work on it and happily accept that mantle.

by Aisander D on May 28, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

just keep away

from the 66ers girl, y’know from what you were saying earlier. Wait, is it already too late?

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by daddydai on May 28, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha...

I can’t go back to Tulsa anymore. I got run out of the local Dennys with the shotgun on my last visit.

by Aisander D on May 28, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn

I was going after that 100 million contract first thing this morning too. crap, now what am I going to do for money?

…back to 11th street I guess.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 29, 2009 5:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

You know....

for the accomplished text’ers…. you damn near need a degree in hieroglyphics to decipher the meanings.

It’s like “A beautiful mind” meets “The Davinci Code”..

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

it’s definitely an entire culture.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whats really bad....

is that i JUST realized I was the one on the outside. I originally thought I just missed the boat (being 37 now)…. until

…my mom emailed me with some 5555, AAOMF monstrosity….

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meets...

“Confessions of a Shopaholic”

by Aisander D on May 28, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I bet the 14 yr old girl do love him, that is why we need some ugly on our team. Somebody send Greg Oden down here asap

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by daddydai on May 28, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

My guess is....

Less than thrilled?

Religion is the emulation of the adult by the child. Religion is the encystment of past beliefs: mythology, which is guesswork, the assumptions of trust in the universe, those pronouncements which men have made in search of personal power, all of it mingled with shreds of enlightenment. And always the ultimate unspoken commandment is "Thou shalt not question!" But we question. We break that commandment as a matter of course. The work to which we have set ourselves is the liberating of the imagination, the harnessing of imagination to humankind's deepest sense of creativity.

by blackvanilla on May 29, 2009 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you like that?

Can’t believe I got caught reposting my mistake/stupidity. lol

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did....

and I’m jealous. ;)

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by iverson2169 on May 28, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yet another...

Loud Link :p That’s a great one too.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 28, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good stuff on Westbrook

Interesting that he shot more than half of his shots when the ball should just be getting past half court. Once he slows down the game a bit he could really make a leap.

by dishingoutdimes on May 29, 2009 12:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Knew you’d like that. Modern stats hurt my head. Maybe it is my brain’s low usage rating?

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by daddydai on May 29, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

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