2009 NBA Draft Coverage: Hello, My Name Is Hasheem Thabeet
Hello, my name is Hasheem Thabeet. I'm 7'3" tall and I like to block shots like you can't even imagine. Defense is the name of my game, and I'm prepared to become the dominate force on the inside for the Oklahoma City Thunder, which will ultimately lead towards winning an/multiple NBA Titles a few years down the road. Now, I know your organization has had a long history of failed Centers, but all of those were acquired in Seattle, and the move to Oklahoma City was not only a new beginning for the franchise, but a chance to start over in terms of finding a long term solution at Center. I am the man for the job, and over the course of this post, I'll do my best to convince you that I am not to be compared to the likes of Robert Swift, Mo Sene, and Johan Petro.
But enough about them, what about me? What makes me so special? Well, in case you already forgot, I'm 7'3" tall and tip the scales at a little over 260. Would you want to beat and bang around in the post against that frame? I didn't think so. I'm currently weighing in at 268, and would like to be around 275 by the time the season rolls around to add a little bit of strength. My size obviously makes my presence hard to miss on the defensive end. I block shots like crazy, and do a good job keep opposing centers from being effective in the post. In addition to shot blocking, my size gives me a tremendous advantage on the boards as well. I averaged over 10 rebounds per game last season, and believe I possess the tools necessary to be a 10+ RPG center throughout a significant portion of my NBA Career.
I also am planning on finishing my schooling over the next couple of summers, as bettering myself off the court is very important to me. I fit the mold of the type of player that Sam Presti likes, and that this team is being built with. I'm a hardworking, unselfish, defensive-minded player, who will not only continue to progress on the court, but off it as well. I'm another one of those "high character" guys that Presti likes so much, and believe I'd fit right in with the other young guys on this team, like Kevin, Jeff, and Russell.
Speaking of Jeff, another big reason the Thunder should go ahead and Draft me is that it will allow them to continue to let Jeff Green grow and develop at the power forward position for this team. His lack of size, and style of play is probably better suited for the small forward position (where we are keeping Kevin cemented at), but with me hanging around in the middle, there won't be as great a need for another big body down low. Essentially you won't have to move anybody around, and will be able to keep the team intact as it was this season by drafting me. Russell can continue to develop his game at the point, Jeff can continue to grow at the 4, and Kevin will surely be on his way to an all-star appearance. Of course there is the issue of Nenad Krstic, but I like Nenad, and I think we compliment each other quite nicely. It will throw opposing teams off when we switch in and out because our style of play is so much different.
I can't finish writing this without being totally honest with you either. I do have some work to do on my offensive game to become a better scoring threat. I am working on my footwork this summer, and trying to become a better scorer. I only averaged a little over 13 points per game last season, and that was against college players, most of which were vastly undersized compared to me. That's something that won't be the case on a nightly basis in the NBA. Over the course of my rookie season though, I don't think there is any reason I can't average somewhere around 8-10 points per game if I'm given around 30 minutes of playing time. But I think that is an okay number when you have guys like Durant, Green, and Westbrook on the court as well.
But even if my offensive game has a lot of work to do, playing for Oklahoma City would be the perfect fit for me because this team has so many other young scorers. Kevin Durant is going to score 25+ points every night, and Jeff Green will probably be pushing that 20 point per game mark next season, and that's still not even mentioning Russell Westbrook, who also might be pushing that 20 point per game mark next season. So right there you have approximately 65 points per game, and if I can add 10 to that, we're at 75 points already, and that's not even included the 4th starter, and any bench players. So playing for the Thunder will allow me to continue to grow offensively without much pressure while at the same time be given the full reigns to be able to do what I do so well on the defensive end. Because of all the other scorers on this team already, I really don't think there is a better fit for me amongst the other teams that will have the opportunity of drafting me.
So I know everybody out there in Oklahoma are worried about me being the next Robert Swift, or Johan Petro, but really you shouldn't be. I'm cut from a different mold than those guys, and I have three years of College experience to back that up. Each year I have improved my game, and become a better player, and I believe I will continue to do so for many years to come. I think I am a rather large piece of the puzzle that Sam Presti is trying to solve by putting the right group of players together as the Thunder rebuild for the long haul.
Thank you so much for reading, most sincerely,
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I am also skinny and easily overpowered by smaller but stronger men on both offense and defense,
and have bricks for hands that fail to catch anything other than an easy pass,
and am a terrible passer when I do happen to catch the rock,
and frequently zone out of games, not catching rebounds I should easily grab with my height,
and have no real offensive game to think of because I have no balance and terrible footwork and have scored most of my points on easy catch and shoots and offensive putbacks using my extreme height advantage, an advantage that woud be greatly reduced in the NBA,
and if you do think my offensive game only needs time to improve, I invite you to join the ranks of those that thought the same of Kwame Brown, Rafael Araujo, Nikoloz Tskitishvili, Darko Milicic, et al.
So in conclusion, please, draft me because it is clear that I am a sure thing and much more useful to you than what you could get by trading down.
[BTW, the Sonics drafted Sene 10th overall in 2006]
College also showcased my inability to handle
physical players a foot shorter than I am, somewhat negating my height and wingspan. I look confused on offense, to the point that my own team stopped using me as a serious scoring option. I also had serious trouble doing anything effectively against such notable NBA greats as Roy Hibbert, which bodes well for my transition to facing off against legit NBA centers and power forwards.
So draft me, not as a prospect that could quite possibly bust, but as your surefire center of the future.
Why Hello there Negative Nancy's...
You fella’s are glass half empty kind of guys aren’t you? lol
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 23, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
All Seattle fans are glass half empty.
It’s in our DNA.
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Well that's understandable...
Its not like the Seahawks, Mariners, or Sonics give/gave much for Seattle fans to cheer for very often.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 23, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Thank god for the Storm?
And last year’s UW women’s cross country?
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Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.
Really?
Why?
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 24, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
It would be...
nice to have some women’s b-ball in the city. Especially since we have a good women’s program at OU.
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You think people would show up for that though?
I’m not sure the team would have been worth while in keeping.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 25, 2009 5:01 AM CDT up reply actions
How's OKC's lesbian population?
No one really talks about it, but about half the constituency of WNBA fans are lesbians. If you don’t have a large number of lesbians to come out to the games, it doesn’t really make sense business-wise to move the franchise.
Funny question...
we have a decent gay/lesbian community, but not thousands of them to fill seats.
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Sonics were one of the best teams in terms of wins/losses in the 90’s, and the Seahawks won 3-4 nfc west titles recently, with a Superbowl appearance. I will take that for a little town in the northwest.
by blackvanilla on May 26, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't forget a record 116 victories in 2001.
2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.
…and where did the World Series Trophy end up that year? In Seattle? lol
…..sorry, nothing more disappointing than winning 116 games and not winning it all.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 27, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
There's a champion every year.
Only once every 100 or so years does a team win 116 games. I’ll take what I can get.
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Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.
I feel ya...
Still, that had to be soulcrushing not to win the series that year.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 27, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
My biggest issue with him is his tendency to be dominated by smaller, physical players. DeJuan Blair absolutely dominated him, and he’s 6’6’’. Imagine what the physical rebounders in the league (Howard, Oden, Okafor, etc.) will do to Thabeet.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
That was a fun read.
People are scared of Thabeet bust potential. If Presti deems Thabeet fit to be drafted, I’ll support him 100%. As Clay Bennett once said about Presti, “He is thoughtful. He is methodical. He is measured.” Presti did not draft Swift, Sene, or Petro, so I’m not afraid of our past failures.
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I like Thabeet to the Thunder
He’ll add a much needed defensive presence in the middle and at the same time not take away anything offensively from what the Thunder does. Guys like KD, RW0, and Uncle Jeff can continue to flourish offensively. The downside is teams wouldn’t have to change much in terms of how they defend the middle if he doesn’t become a scoring threat. But honestly if he can figure out a way to score 10-14 points per game, I’d be happy, especially if that comes with 10+ rebounds, 4+ blocks.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 23, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions
If the Thunder pick at #3
I’d expect it to be Thabeet, if he’s available. Of course, Presti may have his eye on someone else come June 25th, and like he said in the post lotto interview, if he wants to trade down, he won’t have a problem finding any takers.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 23, 2009 9:22 AM CDT reply actions
I get what you're saying.
And I see why Thabeet’s potential is so seductive. I really do. But I also think you’re WAY underselling his downside and conveniently forgetting a lot of historical precedent. Let’s leave out the offense for a sec. He is simply not a tenacious player. You ask “Would you want to beat and bang around in the post against that frame?” Well, the players did exactly that in college absolutely dominated him. He gets boxed out of rebounds by guys half his size. It’s great that he’s working on his game right now. I’m sure he’d like to be the best player he can be. But how many lackadaisical centers in college developed the killer instinct in the NBA? Sure, he may be a serviceable league defender, but do you really see this guy developing the necessary attitude to man the middle on a title winner? Take a look at the Western Conference finals right now. The Denver bigs are dominating the Lakers, not because Pau and Bynum aren’t offensively skilled enough but because Denver is playing with a competitive fire that the Lakers aren’t matching. Ninety percent of defense is effort. Look at Rashard Lewis and Ray Allen after they left Seattle to play with defensive-minded playoff contenders.
Ok. Offense. How many centers with poor balance and no footwork in three years of coaching in college ended up getting it in the NBA? How many centers with godawful hands ended up getting them in the NBA? And once the Thunder get the ball to Thabeet in the post, if the shot’s not there, you trust him to find a cutting Westbrook or a Durant flashing open in the corner? Good hands and balance are indicative of coordination and natural athletic ability. Thabeet has neither, but you expect him to gain these things with training?
All true...
I guess I just like to focus on the positive about guys who may wind up as part of our team.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 23, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly when I think about....
It doesn’t matter which one is available at #3 Rubio or Thabeet, either one will be too hard for us to pass up…I think.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 23, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions
Nope.
I think its to keep integrity throughout the commenting system. That way people can’t go back and keep changing stuff, creating chaos, so to speak.
If I need to edit my comment I simply just reply to that comment like so:
*Supposed to something different here. Don’t be mad, my brain is broken. Thanks.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 23, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
*
Meant to say my brain falls out of the back of my head on occasion. Hang on, let me slide it back in. Ah, there we go.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 23, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Plus
It bolsters the comment count :p Not that my Ego needs more comments or anything :p
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 23, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I like this point
but with me hanging around in the middle, there won’t be as great a need for another big body down low. Essentially you won’t have to move anybody around, and will be able to keep the team intact as it was this season by drafting me.
I think too many teams are stuck with old roles where there are two defined ‘big men’, two swing men, and a point.
With Thabeet down low, and Durant and Green as big/swingmen, and Thabo/Gelly/Weaver and Westbrook as perimeter defenders, It seems like there’s more flexibility. Both Green and Durant can defend SFs rather well. I don’t think they can defend 4’s that well though, so leaving Thabeet to be the big force down low with either of Durant/Green picking up the backside pass is a better idea I think. If Thabeet is a Duncan-like presence on defense, than as the Spurs have shown, there doesn’t really need to be a defensive force at the 4-spot to help out.
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Exactly.
Drafting Thabeet would sort of solidify or justify the Sonics/Thunder picking both Durant and Green with top five picks a few years ago, as well as allow them to keep their young core in tact and building upon where they were all last season. The more I think about it, the more I’m wanting Thabeet.
The potential of what he can add to this team defensively is worth the chance of him being a flop in the NBA.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 23, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
So...
Is the consensus that Thabeet would start over Kristc? I’m not so sure he would until at least halfway through the season. Coming off the bench and slowly raising his minutes would better help him prepare for the battles against the likes of Yao, Tim Duncan, Shaq, and Nowitzki. He’s definitely no quick term solution.
Not initially...
He’d come off the bench for at least half the season I would imagine until he progressed enough to become a plausible starter over Krstic. Given 25-30 minutes off the bench, I think he’d be able to continue to learn and grow along with the rest of the team. Keep in mind Krstic is versatile enough to play the 4 as well for short periods of time.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 23, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I initially was very hard on Thabeet (Sam Dalembert maximum), but am starting to come around on him
I think he can get much stronger/add muscle, his current personal trainer said he thinks he never did a real weight lifting regimen before. His conditioning reportedly got already better, so his stamina that was weak in college should come around after a year or so. His current moves are mechanical, but that can improve (or not). He also will continue to understand and see the game better, he just plays for like six years.
But that brings up a big question mark: Has basketball found him because he was so unusually tall, or did he really choose to play basketball and wants to become the best he can be. I think the former, because in interviews he said his first love growing up was soccer. There were basketball courts around, but he only wanted to play soccer. His mental approach to the game will be highly important to determine how he will develop. As Sam Presti, I would talk a lot with his college coaches and with him about that.
On an “intangibles”/business note: A team won’t sell nearly as many tickets with him as with Rubio. He is too shy and soft-spoken. Good character guy probably in the mold of a Emeka Okafor who also does a lot for his home country, but not the guy you build big marketing campaigns around as a company or team. Hard core fans could love him, the casual fan won’t really care.
You know, I just watch that Ric Bucher vid of RW, KD and JG
they were all hangin out in a Deli, and I thought, “I don’t see Rubio doing that if he comes here”. Those guys were having a blast, and you can tell that Russell, Kevin and Jeff had become really good friends. That’s a great thing to have – you can’t just plug in another guy and expect the friendship and chemistry to be the same.
Therefore, I disagree with the trade Westbrook or Green to the Clips for Griffin talk. I don’t think that would be productive.
But it did cause me to think, man I think Thabeet would fit in really well with those guys. Thabeet is kind of a goofy funny kid and I think he would actually fit in really well with what those guys have got started. He’s also apparently a really hard worker. I don’t know, I think I might have had Thabeet pegged wrong. Even if I don’t and Thabeet is just a career shot blocker / rebounder and kind of a role player, I think he would add good chemistry to the team.
Either way now, I think I’ll wind up happy with Rubio or Thabeet.
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by dishingoutdimes on May 24, 2009 11:04 PM CDT reply actions
That's where I am as well....
Combine those thoughts with being able to keep everyone in tact at their current positions and I think you have a team that will be significantly improved next season, and if Thabeet turns into defensive force on the inside, well, things only get better for this young group.
The more I think about Rubio, the more I’m not as high on him as I used to be as well. Although if he is there at #3, how do you not take him?
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 25, 2009 5:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I love that video.
Yeah I think Hasheem will fit in perfectly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjADO-KPxzU
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Chemistry is one thing
But it’s not necessarily all that important. Professional sports = job + work, and I think a pretty good chunk of players realize this. Going to the age-old example: Kobe and Shaq didn’t exactly become best buddies while on the Lakers. But they did do their jobs while on the court. I’m pretty certain most of the players on any given team would do as well (or nearly as well) statistically if they were paid the $$$ to play something they love (potentially) with a bunch of people they are rather ambivalent about.
I think providing your coach with the best pieces to build a team and letting the coach work out the nuances of rapport and chemistry is really the more useful option. Most importantly, the chemistry that RW/KD/JG have hasn’t translated into a winning franchise, which makes the issue less important — if this were a championship calibre team and we were taking away critical pieces that worked ever-so-well together, that’d be one thing.
Finally, you’re talking about Griffin — a HUGE draw from the business angle. Giving up on Green (and mayhap a pick in a weaker draft) to land Griffin … it’s at least worth exploring as an option.

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