2009 NBA Draft Lottery Results: Clippers #1, Grizzlies #2, Thunder #3
by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 8:35 PM CDT
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The 2009 NBA Draft Lottery has come and gone, and for Thunder fans, it was exciting as ever. As they counted down the teams 1 by 1, the anticipation grew more and more. By the time the Wizards were announced at #5, Thunder fans everywhere rejoiced knowing that we were in the final 3, but would have to wait through an EXTREMELY long commercial break to find out where we would end up. With the local boy Blake Griffin set to be the top pick, it was starting to seem like fate for the Thunder to land the top overall spot. Well, that was quickly put to rest after the break as the Thunder were quickly announced as the #3 overall pick, followed by the Grizzlies jumping up to #2, and the Clippers up to #1.
Now the real fun begins! Who will the Thunder grab at #3 Hasheem Thabeet? James Harden? Will Presti Trade down? Will either the Clippers or Grizzlies allow us to trade up? One thing is for sure, moving up into the top 3 assures us of another piece that should potentially help propel this team forward toward the playoffs and beyond. We all know the history of this franchises luck with big men, but can you see 5 years down the road a fully developed and dominant 7'3" stud Center in Hasheem Thabeet helping the Thunder progress towards being an elite team? It sounds nice on paper...errr it looks nice on this post, but who knows how he will pan out, and right now, who knows if we'll even end up with him. Its just the ball being in our court on this guy that is most intriging. Anyway, enough jabber jaw, and on to the results.
| PICK NO. | TEAM | Pre Lotto |
| 1 | L.A. Clippers | 3 |
| 2 | Memphis | 6 |
| 3 | Oklahoma City | 4 |
| 4 | Sacramento | 1 |
| 5 | Washington | 2 |
| 6 | Minnesota | 5 |
| 7 | Golden State | 7 |
| 8 | New York | 8 |
| 9 | Toronto | 9 |
| 10 | Milwaukee | 10 |
| 11 | New Jersey | 11 |
| 12 | Charlotte | 12 |
| 13 | Indiana | 13 |
| 14 | Phoenix | 14 |
Probabilities before the Lottery
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Whoo!
Just glad we didn’t end up worse than 4th. Its a relief to move up into the top 3 really.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, things get interesting now
Clippers have Zach Randolph’s HUGE contract at PF. Griffin is way way way way way better than Randolph, but that’s gotta factor in. Still, gotta assume the Clips will be taking Griffin.
The Grizzlies need size. A lot. They got Mike Conley Jr recently. Rudy Gay. Hakim Warrick. So basically they have a bunch of talented wings and a developing PG. So I see them taking Thabeet.
That leaves us probably with a guard. Who will it be? Harden? Rubio? Someone else?
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by dishingoutdimes on May 19, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chad Ford has us taking Rubio
for what it’s worth
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by dishingoutdimes on May 19, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m definitely happy with Rubio, especially at #3. He could be the point guard of this team for many MANY years to come.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chad Ford is an idiot. Although...Wallace and Dunleavy are too :)
Anyway, if everything goes according to plan and you have free choice of Thabeet and a number of good guards, that’s really not bad. Congrats.
by Norsktroll on May 19, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Grizzlies take Thabeet...
We MUST draft Rubio and move Westbrook back to the point.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
errr…supposed to be “and move Westbrook back to the 2”
…Stupid Brain.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This would be awesome
Otherwise try to pick up Conley or Rubio in trade? They have a huge glut of guards …
by manifestus on May 19, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what I've seen Rubio at 3 is good
The kid’s only 18, which is pretty amazing. Throw in the fact he’s been playing pro ball for the last 4-5 years that makes him young AND mature already. Rubio, Westbrook, and Durant would be pretty hard for anybody to defend.
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by Acreman20 on May 19, 2009 8:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
If The Grizz take Thabeet, wow, Rubio at #3 would be terrific! Honestly if Thunder fans out there were hoping for Rubio if we couldn’t get Griffin or the #2 slot, the Grizzlies jumping up to #2 was probably the best thing you could have hoped for.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really think Rubio would be there at 3?
We ask 48... We give 48...
by AD. on May 19, 2009 8:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely
unless someone trades with the Grizzlies. The Gasol they have in the middle is just like Pau – a lot of offense but not much defense. Thabeet gives them a shot blocker and rebounder.
Griffin is definitely #1, so all we need is for someone other than Rubio to go at 2.
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by dishingoutdimes on May 19, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could be...
The Grizzlies need a big man for sure, and have tons of guards on the roster. If anyone would take Thabeet over Rubio, its Memphis.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't the Grizz trade down?
Or draft Jordan Hill? They seem fairly set at the 1,2,3, and 5 position (I know, stupid thing to say that a horrible team is set at 4 of 5 positions), but Conley, Mayo, Gay, and Gasol seem to be fairly ok starters. After watching a lot of Pac 10 basketball, I’d have to say I actually thought that Hill was the best player in the Pac 10, not James Harden.
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by LantermanC on May 19, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s definitely a possibility as well, but why not move Gasol to the 4 and play Thabeet at the 5 and go big up front? Could work.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes sense.
Just what the NBA needs another 7’ foot named Gasol playing the 4. At least he is not a push over like his bro.
by daddydai on May 19, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The question of course
Is what it would take for them to trade down.
by manifestus on May 19, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be awesome if they took Thabeet…. here’s to hoping
We ask 48... We give 48...
by AD. on May 19, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think either Thabeet or Rubio would be great
I am skeptical about Harden being a great player as opposed to a fairly good player. Rubio I think could be kind of like a Ginobli eventually, just cutting down lanes and creating all sorts of opportunities. Thabeet I think will be known as a shot blocker and a rebounder, something the Thunder definitely need at that position. Then they just need more offense at the 2 and the 4.
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by dishingoutdimes on May 19, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys should take Austin Daye...
7" 145 pounds of awesome.
by Aisander D on May 19, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LMAO. Iceman always good for a chuckle
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do what I do....
you’re other option at #3 is Hanbrough, just in case people didn’t hate your franchise enough, you could bolster those feelings by picking him. I know I hate him. I don’t hate you guys, but I hate Hanbrough.
by Aisander D on May 19, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At #3?
Maybe in the late first round. No way is Hansbrough going in the top 5 and probably not top 10. Especially if he measures out at 6’8" with a shorter than average wingspan (which I think will be the case). He’s also not a great defender, which is something Presti seems to be big on. Plus, Collison is almost the same thing as Hansbrough, just a little a little worse, and a little more injury prone.
The 2 way player is too often overlooked, but luckily for Thunder fans, it’s not something Presti overlooks.
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by LantermanC on May 19, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, think Hanstravel should go 1-2 with Griffin....
really it’s a toss up.
by Aisander D on May 19, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
green and #3
to LA for #1. Sef, Kristic, BG, Durant and Westbrook much better than Rubio Durant Green Westbrook Kristic or Westbrook Sef Durant Green and Thabeet. Thabeet could not stop Blair, Gray, Hibbert or Monroe. He is more Mark Eaton than Deke.
by bunk moreland on May 19, 2009 10:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd make that move in a heartbeat
That or hope Rubio drops
by manifestus on May 19, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ricky Rubio is ok,
but he’s compared to Pet Maravich and Steve Nash, two guys who A) didn’t win the big one (for Pete, not in his prime) and B) can’t play defense. Rubio’s biggest knocks are a lack of a jumper, and ‘lateral quickness’, which I take to mean not great defense? It seems like if the Thunder get a pg, he’d have to have a jumper to offset Westbrook’s lack of one, and play decent defense as well.
Best case scenario I think is Thabeet withe the #3 pick, and Darren Collison with the #25 pick. Shooters can always be found for the cheap, guys like Kyle Korver, JJ Redick, Fred Hoiberg are a dime a dozen. It’s not like anyone on the Nuggets is that great of a shooter, and they’re a good team by playing defense and having a bunch of good guys.
2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.
by LantermanC on May 19, 2009 10:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and the reason I advocate Collison
is that he’s a Presti-type guy. Good character from good school. Plays great defense. Good ball handler, but not great, which is fine because Durant and Westbrook can both handle the ball well. Shot 87 and 90% from the FT line last year, and his 3P% was down last year, but his sophomore and junior years, he shot 53 and 45% from beyond the arc.
2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.
by LantermanC on May 19, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you were talking about Nick Collison
until I read the previous post. I was like “huh?”
by ZaMzAm FiRe on May 20, 2009 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"It's not like anyone on the Nuggets is that great of a shooter"?
Melo, Kleiza, Billups and JR Smith would disagree with you. Denver is not hurting for deep threats.
Personally, I’m a big big Harden fan. A great jump shooter who can create his own shot, plays well off the ball, can drive, post up smaller defenders, shoot the three, distribute the ball and plays hard on defense. He’s got great attitude and intelligence and would buy into the team philosophy immediately. He’s far along developmentally and can contribute right away. He’s unlikely to be an all-star, but he’s got a high floor. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t become a solid starter, a poor man’s Brandon Roy, and sooner rather than later.
I can even see an argument for Harden over Rubio (though it’s admittedly a pretty hard sell). I wouldn’t be opposed to a trade with the Kings if Rubio falls to us and the price is right.
And please god no to Thabeet. Skinny 7’3" pick with great potential but has no real game to speak of, who can be easily overpowered by stronger opponents on defense (in the nba, that’s everyone), and who picked up the game fairly recently? I’ve been following this team for a long time. I’ve learned enough to say no thanks.
by sammy on May 20, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 20, 2009 4:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not liking what I'm reading.
Personally, I feel the best for all teams would be:
Clippers – Rubio
The Clippers have plenty of bigmen, including Zach Randolph, Chris Kaman, and Marcus Camby. I know Griffin is the best player, but I feel they need help at the point.
Grizzlies – Griffin
The Grizzlies need help at the 4. Plus I feel this will be the best option for Griffin.
Thunder – Thabeet
We need a center and shot blocker, not someone to move Westbrook out of his current position. That is why I was kinda fond of Harden or Jennings. Harden would bring more offense at the 2, and Jennings would be more of project.
by daddydai on May 19, 2009 11:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who am I kidding?
We like them young right? Why not get the 18 yr old.
by daddydai on May 19, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, just take Jeremy Tyler...
and stash him Europe. He’s already flying over there right now.
by Aisander D on May 19, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I'm hoping for Rubio
Just posted a FanPost about it. I’m a bit worried that Thabeet will wind up fading into a role player. Harden will be a good player for maybe 15-20 minutes or so a game and give you some points in bunches but never be a starter. Griffin is the real deal obviously, and deserves to be #1.
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by dishingoutdimes on May 19, 2009 11:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea who I'd pick...
but I do trust the Thunder front office. they’re good and I have all confidence in them! Presti ftw!!!
by NYG 28 on May 20, 2009 12:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well...
I’d obviously take Rubio, Blake, or Thabeet, but don’t know what else they’re thinking… like maybe picking up a veteran center in Gortat, or a shooter like Wally Szerbiak… but I do trust them. You know what would be nice to have right now and would put a lot of questions at rest??? Tyson Chandler. haha.
by NYG 28 on May 20, 2009 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point my draft board would probably be
Griffin, Rubio, Thabeet, Harden, Evans (Tyreke), Lawson (yes I have him that high), Hill, Curry
so basically I’d have the thunder taking Griffin, Rubio or Thabeet. It WOULD be nice to have Tyson Chandler (sigh)
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by dishingoutdimes on May 20, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about you guys trade the 3
to the Warriors for Brandan Wright, Marco Bellinelli, and the 7th if Rubio drops to 3.
by ZaMzAm FiRe on May 20, 2009 12:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha nice....
How about we trade Rubio for CJ Watkins and Marcus Williams and Robert Rowell’s magic 8-ball? Seems plausible.
by Aisander D on May 20, 2009 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*CJ Watson
We actually waived M-Will, and Rowell’s 8-ball is wayyyyyy to valuable.
by ZaMzAm FiRe on May 20, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that you guys wiaved D-Nelson and Hendrix....
bu then kept that POS Williams until the end of the season and waived him anyway. I love the Warriors frontoffice.
by Aisander D on May 20, 2009 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
I think he was just kept by Mully just to cover up the mistake a little
by ZaMzAm FiRe on May 20, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted ya'll to get #1
I wanted Blake Griffin with you guys. We honestly don’t need him on the Warriors. I wanted my man KD to finally get his help from Blake, but I guess he’ll get it with Hasheem (crossing my fingers). NBA is fixed. That’s why they gave the Clippers #1. They want the Clippers and Fakers to both succeed. L.A.= the entertainment capital of the world. God I hate L.A.
by Golden Boy on May 20, 2009 2:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Me too....
Let’s hope it sinks into the ocean while Kobe’s watching “Doin Work” with three hookers at his mansion on the coast.
by Aisander D on May 20, 2009 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Serge Ibaka???
How long till Serge Ibaka becomes a part of the team you figure? 1-2 more years
by pwc_brick on May 20, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point
Any updates at all on him?
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by Scott Schroeder on May 20, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen some info coming in from Spain, but not much.
I need to try to translate a bit.
by daddydai on May 20, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is difficult to find information on the guy, but I’m excited to see what he will bring to this team when he does make it to the Thunder.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 20, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most NBA mock drafts I have seen have Rubio at either number 1 or number 2.
I don’t think he will be there for you guys at 3.
by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on May 20, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
by "most" I mean all...
I have yet to see one where he falls to number 3, which is good for me because I like to root for the best young team in the league, the Portland Trailblazers.
by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on May 20, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Memphis with the number 2 pick complicates things.
They just drafted Conley Jr. and they really really need help in the the front court. They’ve pretty much got the defensively-deficient Marc Gasol and that’s about it. Drafting Rubio would essentially be giving up on Conley. Maybe they flip Conley to a team for some front court help, but I think it’s just as likely they reach a little at two and take the beat.
by sammy on May 20, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see that.
Thabeet could be a work in progress since they have Gasol already. If they take Rubio, he would be an automatic upgrade over Conley.
by daddydai on May 20, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its not a lock that the Grizzlies take Rubio. The Clippers already confirmed they will take Griffin, so if Memphis decides to take the big fella, Rubio would fall into our lap. I’m not saying that’s going to happen, but it is a possibility.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 20, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there is a realistic chance of that happening...
Most reports I’ve read say that this draft is front loaded with 2 great players and then takes a big drop off after that. Those two great players being Rubio and Griffin.
The Trailblazers will dominate for the next 8 years in the West. If OKC got a Rubio or Griffin things might be different.
by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on May 23, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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