2009 NBA Draft Lottery: OPEN THREAD
by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 12:00 AM CDT
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Well folks! This is it! The moment of Truth is upon us, and the Oklahoma City Thunder will be involved in their first ever NBA Draft Lottery selection show tonight at 7:30pm Local Time on ESPN. NBA Shootaround is set to start at 7pm Central time as well, which should make it well worth watching, so I fully recommend clearing your schedule between 7pm and 8pm CT and tuning into ESPN to see where the Thunder will be making their first selection in the 2009 NBA Draft, which is coming up in late June. Of course keep your web browsers opened to this post, so you can join in on the post-lottery, knee jerk reactions, that are sure to follow.
After the selection show is over we will have a much better idea as to who might be the next rookie player joining the Oklahoma City Thunder. Of course that will be a little bit more/less difficult to determine depending on where the Thunder end up. If they get the awarded the top pick of the draft, we'll go ahead and announce that with the first pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Oklahoma City Thunder Select: Forward, University of Oklahoma, Blake Griffin! Whereas, if we wind up with say, the #6 pick, the guessing game will begin as to who teams in front of us will wind up taking, then determining the best fit for our ballclub. Currently we're slotted in at Number 4 overall, and sliding backwards wouldn't be the end of the world, but the impact from getting one of the top 3 picks in the draft as opposed to sliding backwards is night and day in terms of immediate impact from the player. Take the leap to see the odds if you haven't been following the last few weeks, and join us here live to comment in this thread before, during, and after the 2009 NBA Draft Lottery. Should be fun!
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This sounds lame.
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 12:29 AM CDT reply actions
Don't Hate...
If it makes you feel better I wrote this and scheduled it to post long before you sent an email. :p
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 5:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Haha
Just playin
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions
…at the risk of looking like an internet moron…WTF is OSLB?
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 5:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Open Source Live Blog....
we developed it during D-League Futurecasts this year at the RU. It’s basically a game thread but much more off topic and off color, as only RU commenters can provide,.
ah. gotcha. love it!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Its getting so close now...
I can taste a top pick coming!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 5:02 AM CDT reply actions
Hopefully...
Someone emailed me asking whether the “hidden message” in the headed was put there on purpose or if it was just good karma.
LOL, I emailed back asking WTF he’s talking about, no response yet.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
just found this in my inbox…hang on, have to upload it….
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Also...
If you want more of our NBA Draft Lottery Coverage, there are a few nice links just above the comments, Understanding the NBA Draft Lottery System should be especially helpful for Thunder fans with no concept of what the NBA Draft Lottery is.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 5:17 AM CDT reply actions
The NBA is really screwing this up by not showing the actual drawing with lottery balls in a tumbler
Maybe to lengthen it they could draw all 14 spots instead of just the top 3 (again with declining odds according to regular season finish). It would create more excitement to watch than an envelope opened on stage, and remove a lot of speculation/conspiracy theory about manipulations. Local newspapers could print all the winning combinations so fans would sit there like a giant bingo crossing out what they have. Something like this.
I agree that they don’t really capitalize on the system they have created and all the buzz and excitement that goes along with it. Doesn’t David Stern know people love watching Lottery balls get pulled.
…as for conspiracy theories, I don’t buy them since the room is full of reps from every team involved. I just don’t see how it’s possible that everyone would agree to pass on the best player for the betterment of the NBA. Pretty ridiculous actually.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions
They don't have to agree
it’d be like the Patrick Ewing lottery… the board gets bent when they put it in. Slight and accidental… so it seems.
I haven’t worked out how it works with ping pong balls… can’t really bend one of those. Maybe they freeze it? Or warm it up? Or draw a black $ sign on the good ones and a red $ sign on the bad ones?
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The company overseeing it is Ernst & Young
PWC, KPMG, Deloitte, E&Y, … I have worked with about all of the major accounting firms (and worked in one on the consulting side) and got to know how they audit Fortune 100 company balance sheets – or not since they can only do spot tests. And I have seen a partner apologizing to the CFO of a company marred in a bribery scandal for a young associate who had discovered their hidden system of offshore funds. I won’t say which one of those it was. They rotate the assigned people so no networks form, but the account manager does what the guy who pays them says so they can come back the next year. I don’t trust them further than I can throw a notary :)
It’s unlikely. But more transparency wouldn’t hurt.
It might be a stupid question
because I’m guessing, given the draft seems to be Griffin & everyone else, that the answer is a no-brainer… but do you guys want the #1 pick?
(I’m still struggling to see how Griffin helps the team as much as getting Rubio or some other PG or a C like Thabeet… and do you really want the #5 pick from a couple years back coming off of the bench?)
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If they get Griffin
I think they would move Green to the 3, Durant to the 2 and leave Westbrook at the 1. Still a big hole at the 5 however.
On the floor, Thabeet or Rubio would be a better pick. Selling tickets, though, can’t pass up Griffin.
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
Durant doesn’t seem like he’d work as well at the 2, but maybe that’s just me.
So… if they get #1 and take Rubio… do the fans revolt?
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Fans wouldn't revolt
but the team would NOT select Rubio over Griffin. Just not going to happen.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
They would take Griffin and put Green on the market for an upgrade at center I would assume
Similar with LAC who could turn around and move Z-Bo or Davis if they win.
Is Green worth an upgrade at center?
I’m not in the Green fan club, but is he going to garner a player better than Krstic/Collison? Seems they may as well stay at center, if that’s the case.
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Easier said than done
Given that we’d have to find a team that valued Green and was willing to trade a productive center (or a young, higher ceiling center) for us to pull the trigger. I’m not sure how many centers better than Krstic would be available for trade — it’s not like folks are dangling the Brook Lopez’s or Greg Oden’s out there for us to pick up either.
I’m sure the FO would trade him in a heartbeat if such were available.
Green is definitely a hard man to place, that's for sure.
Surely other teams would be interested, should they choose to move him (which personally, I’d hate to see). The guy improved a lot over his rookie season and was pretty productive playing a position that his body doesn’t really agree with.
I’ve love to see him come off the bench longterm, and I don’t mean that as a slide toward him, but a guy of his caliber can really be an igniter off the bench. Especially down the road when the team fills out, having Green coming of the bench could be huge.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
If we get #1 there is no way they pass on Griffin purely because it make sense to draft him from a business standpoint; local kid, consenses #1. Is it better for the team, probably not.
Sure, but
in the long run, won’t winning sell more than just drafting a local guy?
Not saying Griffin won’t help win more, but it seems like Rubio/Thabeet would help win more more than Griffin.
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In the long run, Yes
But immediate returns are always nice..
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure that
Thabeet would be a better pick. He looks primed to fail in a huge way (or potentially do awesomely). And given how well Durant has done at the 3 versus how horrible he was at the 2, I’d be hesistant to stick him back there. It’d make more sense to rotate Green and Griffin if said scenario played out.
And there’s basically no chance with the #1 pick the Thunder would pass on Griffin. Should something ridiculous happen, the pick is almost absolutely going to be Rubio, not Thabeet. Since that’d never happen, it’s a pointless exercise to discuss it in depth.
When did anyone ever suggest drafting Thabeet at 1?
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Look above a few posts
up to the post I actually was replying to — UtesFan89 suggested that drafting Thabeet might make more sense than drafting Griffin. Griffin is hands down going #1 which is what I noted, not that I would recommend that Thabeet would be drafted #1 — rather just that if directly contrasting the two, it’d make little sense to draft Thabeet ahead of Griffin even if for need.
Pretty clear-cut imho.
Durant Thrived
when they moved him from the 2 to the 3 early in the season. I really don’t see them sliding him back to guard full time.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Selling tickets isn't a problem.
Durant is best at SF, Griffin would be the starting PF, Green would be the natural 6th man playing relief for Durant and Griffin.
Can’t we wait a year for that. Beasley came off the bench for Miami, a similar player to Griffin. Give Green another year to start and see if improves some more. I for one love the idea of Durant at the 2, yet his game did take off at the 3. If Griffin and Green are redundant, trade Green for a vet pg and move Westbrook over.
by blackvanilla on May 19, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
There is no question..
we want as high a pick we can get.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
First Round Picks???
What other picks do we have in the first? Do we have any chance of getting that Williams kid from Louisville? He is a great defender. My perfect draft would be Thabeet at 3 and hope we can get williams with our other pick but I dont know where he is projected or what our other picks are.
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Currently we have
The #4 (TBD tonight), and the #25th overall picks, with no second round picks.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Conspiracy
I hope all the conspiracy theory’s are correct and the NBA wants the hometown kid to stay in his hometown.
I wouldn’t be complaining except for having to hear all the you stole your team, now you stole the best player in the draft crap from all the haters.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
So you'd rather not get the number one pick?
That’s big of you, Mr. P.
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Don’t mince words there Mr Ridiculous. That’s the only complaint I’ll have if we win ;-)
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't ever call me a hater
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
How dare you steal the best player in the draft
you guys should’ve won more. :)
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#2 overall and #25 Overall
Would be a no brainer for anyone who prefers Rubio over Griffin. IE the Knicks, etc. It won’t happen though. 3-5 and #25 for #1 you can forget.
It really is hard to justify in any situation really because any situation where the team would be willing to do that deal would be one that wouldn’t benefit us as much as them, and we all know Mr Presti likes to get the better end of any deal he’s involved in.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think that is enticing enough.
How about our 2-5, Phoenix’s 1st round from next year, and D.J. White. I dunno, that might be too much.
Definitely too much...
If Phoenix dismantles and begins to rebuild next year, that could be a high lottery pick.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would they do that?
They wouldn’t.
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Seemed like they were pretty close to doing that this year weren't they?
Trying to ditch Shaq and Amare’
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
They won't get rid of both
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Still...
Phoenix’s pick will have some value. I still think the Clipper’s would be silly not to take our 3rd, Phoenix’s 1st round and D.J. White.
It'd be silly
I’m just saying that I doubt that pick will be HIGH lottery, without some lottery day luck..
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Dont hate me but....
If this thing is rigged, then Stern will get his lover Bennet the hometown kid. He definitely did what he could to get the Sonics out of the emerald city.
Its almost over now...
but there is a Sportscenter NBA Draft Lottery Special on ESPN2 right now.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 2:49 PM CDT reply actions
Hoping for 3rd pick
I hope we get the third pick and select Thabeet. Then I hope we can move up a few picks and get Terrance Williams from Louisville. I dont think he will fall to 25 but he wont be a lottery pick so we can probably get him.
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I really really hope
We DON’T pick Thabeet. I want us to either pick in the top 2 and grab Griffin/Rubio, or slide down enough that be end up with Harden/Hill/Jennings. Thabeet is tall … but just go watch the game against the Spartans again. No thanks.
You already got 3rd pick...
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
whatever’s happening… It’s happening now
then we have to wait till later to find out…
We ask 48... We give 48...
I was thinking that as well while I was working out. Kinda funny thinking about stuff going on that you can see or get any information on.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Good luck OKC
I’m a Chicago Bears fan over at WCG and I’m definitely not a big NBA fan, but I root for the Thunder. When Durant was drafted by the Sonics I chose them as my team, I’m looking to get more into the NBA fandom b/c the NFL off-season is so painfully long. So best of luck to the Thunder!
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I was actually
A supporter of keeping Orton and surrounding him w/ better receivers and an O-line, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t jump off of my couch when I saw we traded for Cutler. 26 yr. old Pro Bowl QB not even in his prime yet, you can’t beat it. Being in Alabama I’m blessed to have the opportunity to watch alot of Hawks games on FSN, and catch very few Thunder games. Hopefully that will change soon.
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He'd better be...
He got them at the expense of my Broncos! ARGH!!!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad you stopped by Acreman! Hang around, we need some more regular contributors on the site!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
We're just a few minutes away now!
From the Lottery Results Announcement! The anticipation is officially boiling over! I’m not going to be greedy! I’ll take the #2 pick! Hell it worked out pretty nicely a few years ago didn’t it?
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions
OMG!
I really can’t take another 20 minutes, lets go already!!!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Here we go!!!!!!!
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Lets go!!!!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
#14 Phoenix Suns
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#13 Indiana Pacers
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#12 Charlotte Bobcats
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#11 New Jersey Nets
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#10 Milwaukee Bucks
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#9 Toronto Raptors
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:48 PM CDT reply actions
Are these all in order so far?
Or has someone jumped up?
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
#8 New York Knicks
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#7 Golden State Warriors
Holding to form so far
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:48 PM CDT reply actions
Grizzlies top 3
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 7:48 PM CDT reply actions
#6 Minnesota Timberwolves
Grizzlies move up
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions
Thunder top 3
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions
#5 Washington Wizards
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#4 Sacramento Kings!
Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions
Rigged?
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions
Damn Right! :-)
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Stealing again.
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
They shoulda names us the Oklahoma Outlaws
Cause We’re stealing shit for years to come, like NBA Championships :p
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Only if Stern hands it to you...
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Grizzlies, Thunder, and Clippers are Top 3
I’m happy here!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions
This means
Griffin, Rubio, or Thabeet, and any of those I’d love to get
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Stupid Thunder
them and the getting better with young players and all that crap.
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Yep
that’s what worries me.
Them, and the Blazers, and the T-Wolves & Grizz & Kings if they can get it together.
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Me too, I'm happy with that!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
you're welcome!
i’ve been a long time viewer, and live in OKC, but mostly write on the Big blue view’s blog (NY Giants)
We're gonna do it!!!!
I believe in David Stern rigging the lottery for us!!!! :-D
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I once believed Stern would do it for us too
then I remember that I’m a Utah Jazz fan.
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We'll find out the top 3 places after the break.
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Not Bad? Awesome!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
#3 Oklahoma City Thunder
Damn!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:52 PM CDT reply actions
Say hello
to Hasheem Thabeet.
Carlos Boozer just made his decision to opt out.
No getting embarrassed by him 3 or 4 times a season.
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Not yet
there were rumors early after the season ended, and his talk mid-season, but I don’t think he officially has yet.
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Hasheem Thabeet
Lock it up.
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 7:52 PM CDT reply actions
#2 Memphis Grizzlies
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:53 PM CDT reply actions
#1 Los Angeles Clippers
WoW. I feel Sorry for Blake Griffin
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:53 PM CDT reply actions
Hey look
they get to replace Elton Brand! (Without destroying 3 teams in the process)
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Wow, this is horrible.....
The Clippers AREN’T SUPPOSED TO WIN! Oh well, at least they’ll royally screw up their pick.
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Gotta Be Thabeet.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
It's Thabeet
I’ve been talking to Scott Roth whose preparing him for the draft. Thabeet’s a stud.
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by Scott Schroeder on May 19, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m happy with 7’3" of shot blocking badness.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
or he could be
Dikembe Mutombo 2.0
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt it.
I think Presti will be happy to put a big body in the middle.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on May 19, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
No Worries....
I bet the Clips take Austin Daye and Memphis takes Chase Budinger. Then you’ll be set.
Damn
If that wasn’t fun as hell! Content with #3.
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Northwest Standings
| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Denver
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53 | 29 | .646 | 0 | Lost 1 |
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Utah
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53 | 29 | .646 | 0 | Lost 4 |
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Oklahoma City
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50 | 32 | .609 | 3 | Lost 2 |
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Portland
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50 | 32 | .609 | 3 | Lost 2 |
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Minnesota
|
15 | 67 | .182 | 38 | Lost 7 |
(updated 9.2.2010 at 4:09 PM CDT)
Thunder Schedule
Last 5 Games
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Los Angeles Lakers
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Fri 04/30 | L 94 - 95 |
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Los Angeles Lakers
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Tue 04/27 | L 87 - 111 |
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Los Angeles Lakers
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Sat 04/24 | W 110 - 89 |
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Los Angeles Lakers
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Thu 04/22 | W 101 - 96 |
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@
Los Angeles Lakers
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Tue 04/20 | L 92 - 95 |
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