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Ten Questions and Answers with At The Hive (Hornets)

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First off, let me preface this by saying this whole thing was put together before the Tyson Chandler trade, so there aren't any questions regarding that here, although we do welcome them and other Hornet fans to comment on that situation as well. So anyway, we all know the special relationship Oklahoma City has with the Hornets, and this Q&A is largely about that very thing. I want to thank At the Hive for taking the time out to do this, and you can check out there site here: AT THE HIVE On to the Q & A...

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WTLC: Generally speaking, when teams relocate, the rest of the country tends to have a negative reaction and general dislike for the team, as has been the case with the Sonics moving to OKC. With the special attachment the New Orleans Hornets have to Oklahoma City, what has the reaction to OKC getting its own team been like amongst Hornets fans?

At The Hive: I think the animosity over /how /OKC acquired the team has been pretty universal across the NBA, Hornets' fans included. But we at least understand how well OKC had supported a team in the past, something most others don't acknowledge. Personally, I feel like OKC deserved a team at some point due to how the Hornets were not only received, but sustained.


It's sad that it happened this way... but how can the people of OKC be held responsible for that part?


WTLC: For fans of the Thunder, when the Hornets come to town to play the Thunder, it was definitely a special occasion. What was the feeling around Hornets fans as the Thunder made the trip down to New Orleans the next night?

At The Hive: I don't think there was too much going on when the Thunder came to New Orleans, but that Hornets in OKC game was definitely special. From all the clips they showed on ESPN- Byron, Peja, Chris Paul all talking to various members of the Thunder staff- you could tell how special it was for the players too. If I'm not mistaken, Chris Paul still maintains his house near the city. And of course, he still conducts his summer camp there. Byron Scott's daughter also lives there, so there are plenty of personal connections to go around.

WTLC: While the Hornets were displaced and playing in OKC, was there appreciation for the way OKC supported the team? Any animosity?

At The Hive: I think tremendous appreciation more than anything. The Hornets definitely got off to something of a rocky start in New Orleans, in the post-Charlotte era. The Baron Davis-Jamal Mashburn tandem was finally broken up, there was a bitter parting with Davis, a somewhat bitter parting with Coach Paul Silas, a disastrous stint with Tim Floyd...there wasn't nearly as much to envy about the Hornets then as there is now. The turnaround did start with Chris Paul, but his initial teams were still quite poor. The fact that OKC mustered up such support for that squad is remarkable.


WTLC: Even though the two teams are in different divisions, do you get the feeling that this is turning into a mutually respected rivalry?

At The Hive: Haha, maybe in a few years. At full health, I think the Hornets are too much better for it to be a legitimate rivalry... but if the rumors about the financial demise of New Orleans are true, it could happen sooner than expected. The Thunder are obviously well on the way up, so maybe the two teams meet halfway (though I hope not).


WTLC: Is CP3 the best point guard in the game today? Where does he rank?

At The Hive: Definitely. Pretty much every offensive measure imaginable has him light years ahead of his closest competition (according to PER and WinScore, the two most widely accepted measures out there, Paul posted a better season as a /rookie /than Deron Williams (his closest match) has posted in his entire career). I think that given good health, Paul will easily finish as the greatest point of all time. And that's only mentioning the offensive side of the ball. Defensive stats are still in their infancy, but both Basketball Prospectus' DQual and Basketball Value's +/- indicate that Paul is one of the best defenders in the game, let alone his position.

WTLC: Despite the OKC Thunder record, how good do you think they are, and what kind of upside to you see for this team?

At The Hive: I see some ridiculous upside in this squad. You guys are really, really lucky to get to watch Jeff Green/Kevin Durant/Russell Westbrook all grow up together on the same team. I can easily envision Westbrook becoming a top 5 point guard, Durant becoming a top 5 overall player, and Green evolving into a reliable third option. A decent job of team construction around those three should yield great results. Very, very few teams have three core guys locked up in rookie deals, so the future looks bright for the Thunder.

WTLC: What trades (if any) would you like to see the Hornets make this week before the Trade deadline?

At The Hive: I'd like to see a backup big-man added to the roster, but it seems unlikely at this point. Marc Stein reported on a potential Tyson Chandler to OKC deal, but I think the only way it happens is if the Hornets opt to pursue financial flexibility at the expense of this year's team. I'd lean towards trying to make a deep playoffs run this year instead of the former.

WTLC: The Hornets record is currently 30-20, and if the playoffs were to start today, they'd be entering with the number 6 seed. Do you see the Hornets making some noise in the playoffs this year?

At The Hive: It all depends on whether Tyson Chandler can return to last year's form. Injuries and various other issues have hampered him all season. In essence, he's the only thing really holding this team back from last year's levels. The addition of James Posey more than cancels out the departure of Jannero Pargo, so this team should at least be expected to make some noise in the playoffs.

WTLC: Who will win on Tuesday when the Hornets return to the Ford Center to face a much improved (since their last meeting) Thunder team?

At The Hive: I'd hope the Hornets, but the Thunder have a great shot. Durant will be tough to cover, and Paul may struggle to cover Westbrook due to his recent groin injury limiting his mobility.

WTLC: What did you think of Kevin Durant's performance during All-Star weekend?

At The Hive: Has any guy ever had a better AS Friday/Saturday? Dropping 46 in the rookie game and then staging an amazing comeback in HORSE.... in all honesty, I thought he should've been playing in the AS Game itself, not the Rookie game. I have to admit, I doubted Kevin Durant a little during his rookie campaign. I thought he took way too many forced shots, and I really questioned his efficiencies from the field. This year, he's come out on fire, and I don't think it's a fluke. The guy's for real. If he can ever take a more active role in the rebounding game and develop defensively, Durant's definitely an MVP-type talent.

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Think we will ever see him handling the ball up the court like we did in the Rookie game? To have that kind of skills is amazing, truly amazing, and we are the lucky ones!

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by gforce on Feb 17, 2009 3:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Depends on if they move him back to the 2...

But with the success he’s had since moving from guard to forward, I wouldn’t think twice about it. The guy has been one of the leagues most prolific scorers early in 2009.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff, Mr. P and ATH

ATH is a fine blogger and one of my favorite colleagues around the Interwebs – great to see a nice conversation between the two of you.

I think that no matter the public’s feelings toward Clay Bennett, ATH makes an important point there – the fans of Oklahoma City can hardly be blamed here. If I were from a non-NBA city and had the chance to get a team in town, I’d take it and embrace it in a second. They did a fine job when the Hornets were tenants, and good on them for getting the chance to have a team in town.

And plenty to be excited about of late, too! Between two sophomore, Westbrook and today’s deal…wow. That team is going to be a lot of fun to watch for a while to come.

Looking forward to checking in here at WTLC more often, Mr. P. Keep on keepin’ on.

-sw

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by Steve Weinman on Feb 17, 2009 3:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the kind words Steve! Its always nice to receive compliments from somebody who writes for one of the best sports blogs on the net.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The gratitude and respect is mutual

The Thunder will be quickly rising on my League Pass priority list over the second half of the season…

…on an off-topic note, what’d you think of what Simmons said about Westbrook in his trade value column?

-sw

Manuel Aristides Ramirez is the greatest hitter I've ever seen.

by Steve Weinman on Feb 17, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well he is right, Russell is a natural Shooting guard, but I think he’s done a decent job at the point in his rookie season. Its not easy to be a rookie in this league, and its gotta be even harder when you are playing a position that isn’t your natural spot and potentially outside your comfort zone. If the team/he wants him to be a point guard long term, he’ll definitely have to become a better passer, and work on creating more for his teammates. On the other hand, he is really good at creating for himself, and it stands to reason that if he can create for himself, he should more than easily be able to create for others.

Either way, his upside is through the rough. There is no guy in this league (homer) that is more fun to watch than Russell Westbrook. The guy is always getting into stuff, his ability to rebound in the trees (as our announcers love to say) is absolutely crazy, but awesome, and fun to watch.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

through the roof* lol brain typo

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pappa

GP was always considered a PG, even though he was better at creating for himself. Jes sayin….

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by pookeyguru on Feb 17, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Traditionally though, the point guard is the guy running the offense, creating opportunities for his teammates. Inside Joke: imjustsaying.COM :p (Don’t worry, only my mom would get that joke, and doesn’t even read this)

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There are a bunch of issues with the Thunder/Sonics in OKC

As well as the Hornets with the relationship to OKC and Nawlinz. So it’s complex, and often times, anger gets in the way.

Personally, I think the biggest reason that the Hornets aren’t in OKC cuz George Shinn won’t sell his stake in the Hornets, and let them go from him. Had he done that, it would have worked out much better long term.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 17, 2009 4:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think it also had a lot to do with post Katrina New Orleans and the effect on the city if the team left.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 4:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

True

There was no easy answer with that hanging over Shinn’s head. I never felt New Orleans was right for the NBA though. Still don’t.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 17, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It kinda makes you feel bad for the Hornets. They are like the team no city wants, and the one that did had them taken away. Not to say Hornets fans don’t want their team in New Orleans, that comment is more in the sense that they moved from Charlotte and there has been talk of another move.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

I think the Nets, Grizzlies or Hornets will end up moving to Seattle. In the end, all it did was really hurt Seattle’s love for the NBA.

But I have to ask this as a Seattle resident: What the fuck was David Stern thinking when he made comments like UW was more important than the Sonics? (Especially when you factor in the fact that in some places, like California, state government can’t get involved in pro stadiums with so many pro teams in state.) Stern’s comment really soured me, and while I don’t hate UW or anything, or really OKC fans, it’s not like UW is getting a new stadium right now either. Paying for those things takes a commitment that others do not have. (It even ignores the fact, that Seattlites haven’t, that they did pay for Key Arena. People seem to have forgotten that part.)

Sorry Pappa, but I had to get that out. I don’t blame OKC fans. I blame a lot of people, for a lot of reasons, for the Sonics moving. If the Kings move, well, that’s going to do it for me in the NBA.

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

I am the stone that builder refused..I am the visual...The inspiration..That made lady sing the blues....I'm the spark that makes your idea bright.....The same spark that lights the dark....So that you can know your left from your right...I am the ballot in your box....The bullet in your gun...The inner glow that lets you know...To call your brother son....The story that just begun...The promise of what's to come...And I'm 'a remain a soldier till the war is won....

by pookeyguru on Feb 17, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s understandable, anytime teams move, it creates anger, resentment, and ultimately hate. If the Broncos ever left Denver, or the Mets New York, I would stop watching the NFL/MLB, just as I’m sure any fan of any team would do.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I will never drink Star*ucks again

I put the blame on Schultz and Stern, with mayor Nickols(sp) a close second. No hate for the OKC fan. You may not believe me but I had a chance to do something nasty to Stern’s food last year. God help me it felt good. Go Thunder! Lets play big. Westbrook,Durant, Green, Chandler,Kristic. Pleeeease, just for five games.

by blackvanilla on Feb 17, 2009 5:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Funny thing about Starbucks is they have a store in Bricktown just a stones throw away from the Ford Center. With all the stores they were closing recently, its a surprise they didn’t close that one out of spite.

…I guess ITS TOO BUSY TO CLOSE THANKS TO THE OKC THUNDER FANS!

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pappa G, are you sure you would stop watching if the Mets or Broncos left? You made the Sonic transition to OKC. It is your hometown,makes it easier. You never know until it happens to you. I tried to stay away, find a new sports girlfriend. Ended up running back to the ex wife.

by blackvanilla on Feb 17, 2009 5:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Its complicated for sure.

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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 5:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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