Thunder trade Expiring Contracts Wilcox/Smith for Tyson Chandler
by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 2:42 PM CST
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Oklahoma City Thunder general Manager Sam Presti finally pulled the trade trigger again today shedding two expiring contracts in Joe Smith and Chris Wilcox (Packaged with the rights to 2008 #50 overall pick DeVon Hardin). In return the Thunder get an accomplished center in the midst of a down year. Despite the stats though, the Hornets are 10 games over .500 with him in the lineup, and right at .500 when he's not. The real win here for Thunder fans is getting some value out of expiring contracts without having to give up any of those stockpiled first round picks.
These two teams will be squaring off tonight in the Ford Center, but don't expect to see any of the players involved on the court.
For the Hornets, this was a simple case of dumping salary. For the Thunder this was a simple case of getting value out of expiring contracts. Tyson Chandler is a guy who really started to come into his own while playing in Oklahoma City for the Hornets, and its nice to have one of those guys back with the team. He's a defensive minded guy on the inside that is averaging 8 ppg, 1.4 bpg, and 8rpg this season. Both the ppg and rpg totals are significantly lower than his totals in the previous two seasons. He played 71 games in Oklahoma City for the displaced Hornets.
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This kicks up the rivalry between Portland and OKC into high gear
last time they faced off, Chandler hit Przybilla’s already broken wrist, nearly inciting a riot. He has a history of being ejected in Portland.
Adding fuel to the fire… this will be a fun rivalry.
Definitely
This is a great pickup for the Thunder, especially if Chandler can return to last season form. How Presti got out of that deal without giving up one of those picks is unbelievable. How many times can he swindle other teams and get away with it?
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
I worry about Chandler without Paul
he’s never had much of a post game, and his rebounding is down this year.
Pritchard’s Telfair for Roy trade still trumps anything that Presti’s done, I think… Both have done a great job though. It’ll be fun for years.
I don't think
you need Chandler scoring that much. With Durant, Green, Westbrook and if you add another offensive threat in someone like Blake Griffin or a SG or both all you need Chandler to do is rebound and play some defense on their bigs. I think the Hornets lose out as far as on the court goes. I know they were clearing cap room and all.
What’s the status of DJ White and what do you guys see his role on this team or in the NBA being?
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Congratulations.
Presti is a genius. And the rebuilding effort is going to look real good within the next two years.
I hopw we can do even better with Raef LaFrentz. :p
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Wonder if they are done?
Earl Watson anyone? Swift or Sene?
I am truly happy we have Krstic to pair with Chandler and that should put to rest any chance that we get the UConn bust in June.
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I would also like to see 1 or all three of those guys go too. Watson especially, try to get some value out of his expiring contract which apparently are as hot an item these days as draft picks in this troubled economy.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
thabeet is not a bust. he’s a force on defense. he’s been working on his post game this season.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 18, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
holy cow this is awesome for you guys
+1 for Presti
Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.
There is still a rumor out there for Salmons to OKC...
How improved a lineup is Westbrook, Salmons, Durant, Green, Chandler/Krstic over what we started the year with?
Hope Presti isn’t shying away from any more deals.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 4:24 PM CST reply actions
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I think that’s the back burner deal for the Kings. If they can dump Kenny Thomas on you guys, I do think the Kings will deal with OKC as long as they can dump all of that salary. (I don’t think you guys have enough there to get that done though.)
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Never know though. If Presti really wanted Salmons, he has the ammunition to go get him. I don’t really want to see him blow some of our valuable assets on Salmons though. I much prefer him working deals that are so much in our favor its ridiculous. :p
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
Call me crazy but I want to keep Sene!
Anyone heard how sergie imeki (sp) or whatever his name is doing overseas? This move is making me think big boys. Come on out to play DJ!
These are the stats for Ibaka I was able to find from the Spanish League...
Serge Ibaka Statistics
Season: 2008-2009
Summary
League Team G MIN PTS 2FGP 3FGP FT RO RD RT AS PF BS ST
Spain (Men) Ricoh Manresa 21 291 129 56-95 0-2 17-24 28 60 88 4 28 23 5
AVERAGE
Spain (Men) Ricoh Manresa 21 13.9 6.1 58.9% 0.0% 70.8% 1.3 2.9 4.2 0.2 1.3 1.1 0.2
Season: 2008-2009
Details
Date Team Against Team MIN PTS 2FGP 3FGP FT RO RD RT AS PF BS ST
10/5/2008 Ricoh Manresa Cajasol 12 8 2-5 0-0 4-4 1 3 4 0 1 2 0
10/9/2008 Ricoh Manresa Tau 12 4 2-4 0-0 0-0 4 1 5 0 3 0 0
10/12/2008 Ricoh Manresa Iurbentia B. 14 9 4-6 0-0 1-1 2 3 5 0 1 2 0
10/19/2008 Ricoh Manresa DKV Joven. 13 7 3-3 0-2 1-2 1 0 1 0 1 2 0
10/26/2008 Ricoh Manresa CB Murcia 11 4 2-4 0-0 0-2 0 2 2 1 2 0 0
11/8/2008 Ricoh Manresa CAI Zaragoza 7 4 2-2 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 1 2 0
11/16/2008 Ricoh Manresa Kalise G.C. 9 4 2-3 0-0 0-0 0 3 3 0 2 1 0
11/19/2008 Ricoh Manresa Regal Barca 5 0 0-3 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
11/23/2008 Ricoh Manresa MMT Estudia. 7 0 0-1 0-0 0-0 1 1 2 0 1 0 0
11/30/2008 Ricoh Manresa ViveMenorca 12 6 3-4 0-0 0-0 2 0 2 0 1 1 0
12/6/2008 Ricoh Manresa Granada 24 15 5-8 0-0 5-6 2 5 7 0 2 1 0
12/14/2008 Ricoh Manresa A.G. Fuenla 4 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1
12/21/2008 Ricoh Manresa Unicaja 11 3 1-3 0-0 1-2 1 1 2 1 1 0 0
12/28/2008 Ricoh Manresa Real Madrid 14 4 2-4 0-0 0-0 1 4 5 0 0 2 0
1/4/2009 Ricoh Manresa Bruesa 16 5 2-5 0-0 1-2 0 7 7 0 4 1 1
1/17/2009 Ricoh Manresa Cajasol 17 8 4-4 0-0 0-0 2 5 7 0 1 1 1
1/21/2009 Ricoh Manresa Tau 18 12 6-9 0-0 0-0 2 2 4 0 1 3 0
1/25/2009 Ricoh Manresa Iurbentia B. 17 6 2-4 0-0 2-2 1 2 3 0 1 0 1
2/1/2009 Ricoh Manresa DKV Joventut 26 16 7-9 0-0 2-3 5 10 15 2 2 1 0
2/8/2009 Ricoh Manresa CB Murcia 24 10 5-6 0-0 0-0 2 7 9 0 1 4 0
2/15/2009 Ricoh Manresa Pamesa V. 18 4 2-8 0-0 0-0 1 2 3 0 1 0 1
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
Was trying to balance love for thunder with a developing love of my now hometown squad the Warriors. Screw em, I just got league pass and am going full Thunder. Love this move. Last year played NBA live through a franchise mode with Chandler as my center on the Sonics.
So I guess you love this move then?
…you sound a lot like our good friend and fellow Thunder Blogger Zorgon over at BlueBlitz.net, he’s also a longtime Warriors fan, blogging the Thunder.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
I read that too. Want to drink a beer with that man. Wonder if a healthy Sene would put up those numbers in the d league. Although I am not sure if that spainish league is top level or not. Havent watched more than 5 games this year of the Thunder. Any promise from Sene?
Sene has barely stepped on the floor. I’m not really sure why they haven’t let him play for the 66ers. I think the organization has already given up on him. Otherwise why wouldn’t they let him play in Tulsa? Steven Hill is….er was before he got hurt.
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
A little more on Ibaka
European players, even the very good ones, don’t see a lot of minutes, so while Ibaka’s stats may not be impressive on the surface he’s actually done very well in one of the better leagues in Europe. One game that really stands out is the game against DKV Joventut, the team for whom Ricky Rubio plays as well as Pops Mensah-Bonsu (Who Ibaka beat in a Spanish League dunk contest). His 16 pts and 15 rebounds in 26 minutes kept them in the game, which they lost on last second free throws from Rubio.
Ibaka is a tremendous athlete, having competed for his nation since he was only 16, and can bring a lot to the table for this Thunder team. I would not be surprised if Presti was thinking about bringing him in next year when he traded the rights to Hardin. While most people expected Ibaka to be in Europe for a minimum of two years, it looks like he’s played well enough to be brought in as soon as next year. He can provide instant defense and rebounding ability, and he has offensive skills that many players similar to him in terms of athleticism lack.
Also, the fact that he’s 7 feet tall with a 4 foot vertical (higher than ANY player in the 2007 draft) makes me excited to see him in a Thunder uniform.
Thanks for the insight Crenshaw! Some really good info there! Welcome to the site!
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by Mr Pappagiorgio on Feb 17, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
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