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Game 11 Preview: Oklahoma City at Miami

This also counts as an open thread, so feel free to post your thoughts during the game here.

Time: 6:30 PM Central Standard Time

Place: The American Airlines Arena (Not Center!)

TV: Fox Sports Net Oklahoma, Sun Sports

Radio: WWLS The Sports Animal (98.1)

Enemy Blog(s): Peninsula is MightierHot Hot Hoops

Backstory: Remember Orlando? Remember San Antonio? Well, forget them. The team of this year seems to be the Miami Heat. Their only losses have come to the equally hot Suns, and the LeBron-laden Cavaliers. Why are the Heat so good? Well, if you saw them last year, it's no surprise, but it is a bit unexpected. For one, Jermaine O'Neal played in 8 of those games, and when everybody is healthy, the team does well. For two, Michael Beasley and Mario Chalmers are no longer rookies, and have a firm hold on what it takes to play in the NBA. For three, Carlos Arroyo and Quentin Richardson have added some much needed depth to the team, so they no longer have to play guys like James Jones and Jamaal Magloire. Jermaine O'Neal and Mario Chalmers are going to be iffy if they do come into the game, but I wouldn't pay any mind to that. I have a feeling they'll both be ready to play. It is worth noting, however, that the Heat barely beat the winless Nets without Chalmers and O'Neal.

Meanwhile, the Thunder have been iffy all across the board, winning and losing both bad and good games. They have no injuries to speak of, but I'm not sure if they can win this game. The Heat are very inside-oriented, with Dwayne Wade getting his usual phantom fouls, Jermaine O'Neal being an inside bruiser, and pretty much everyone on the roster sans ill-used Daequan Cook able to drive inside. We don't have very tough defense inside, and if they're able to score inside, and we're forced into mid-range jumpers and 3s, than we're in trouble. Hopefully, they'll be willing to play a faster paced game with us, and we can avoid that happening.

Below: Matchups, Prediction

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Matchups:

Center: Nenad Krstic vs. Jermaine O'Neal

This one, really, is no contest. While Jermaine O'Neal is someone you'd think Krstic could exploit by shooting his infamous mid-range jumpers, he's countered in the front court my Michael Beasley and faster backup Joel Anthony, who could both easily catch up with Krstic. And he stands no chance against O'Neal inside, so O'neal is the easy winner here if he plays. If he doesn't, I'll give the win to Krstic, simply because he'll be a giant among men.

Power Forward: Jeff Green vs. Michael Beasley

This will be interesting to watch. Can Jeff Green compete against Michael Beasley, who in many ways is his counterpart? In many ways, I'd like to think so, as long as he stays out of foul trouble.

Small Forward: Kevin Durant vs. Quentin Richardson

Quentin Richardson is solid, but it's no secret that he's the weakness in the Heat lineup, if you want to call it that. I expect Kevin Durant to exploit this fully.

Shooting Guard: Thabo Sefolosha vs. Dwayne Wade

Thabo is a good defender, but there's no way he's touching Dwayne Wade. Dwayne Wade will just keep running past him or drawing phantom fouls, so Thabo might as well just stand there. Lets hope that he doesn't miss too many 3s.

Point Guard: Russell Westbrook vs. Mario Chalmers

Chalmers is more of a shooter and Westbrook is more of a driver, but both of them can dish out assists and defend. Fortunately, Westbrook is a much better rebounder, which gives him a slight edge in this matchup.

Battle of the Benches:

Miami has solid backups at every position, and usually goes 5 deep, whereas the Thunder usually only go 4 deep. Fatigue shouldn't be an issue, but I think the Heat are the winner here, because Udonis Haslem provides better numbers off the bench than Nick Collison, and I think Dorrell Wright is more valuable than James Harden at this point. All things considered, they're still pretty close in caliber.

Coaching and Intangibles:

The Heat are at home, but they'll need a full performance from O'Neal and Chalmers if they expect to win. Without them, the team looks pretty bad, I won't lie. All of the intangibles rest on those two men.

Bottom Line:

If the Thunder can focus on driving the ball inside, take advantage of when O'Neal isn't in the game, hope that Dwayne Wade won't explode on them, and not brick so many threes, they'll have a fair shot at this one. Unfortunately, a full strength to 95% strength Heat team is just better than the Thunder at this point. They're a couple years ahead in development.

Prediction: Heat 103, Thunder 94

How do you think the game will go? Vote in the Poll!

And, again, feel free to drop any comments you might have during, before, or after the game below. I might be here during the game to drop my thoughts as well. Go Thunder!

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Who's going to win tonight?
The Oklahoma City Thunder
31 votes
The Miami Heat
65 votes

96 votes | Poll has closed

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D-FENSE!

Although it’s so difficult to quantify, I believe the Thunder can level the playing field with defensive intensity. That was the key in beating San Antonio at their place, and when we’ve been successful our approach has been to overwhelm the other team’s offense. Then we key off that success on the other end of the floor.

This will be a very interesting test of containing the superstar player. I haven’t been blown away by our ability to double-team effectively this season, but maybe tonight can be the difference maker.

BTW – if we have loud city, what do they have in Miami? Hot City? Sweaty City? Vice City?

www.okcthundercast.com
Entertaining insight into Thunder basketball.

by okcthundercast on Nov 17, 2009 6:31 AM CST reply actions  

Westrbook looks like a mummy waking from a deep slumber when the Heat player disturbed the ball.

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 7:44 AM CST reply actions  

XD

That’s a great one. You keep one upping my captions, but who could complain? I love great captions!

Tony.psd = Da Man
Manger of Welcome to Loud City
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by Zorgon on Nov 17, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Unrelated

but I just wanted to say I watched “The Man From Earth” the other day.

Very nice film. It’s amazing when you consider it takes place, essentially, in one room.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Awesome!

Glad the virus has spread! Yeah! To be honest, when you look at it closely, a lot of the acting is bad and people go through violent mood swings for no particular reason. But, it’s hard to say that I’ve had a better time watching a movie than when I watched the Man from Earth. And, considering the budget it was done on and the fact it was written on a mans death bed, it just makes it more intriguing.

Tony.psd = Da Man
Manger of Welcome to Loud City
#1 Warriors, Thunder, and Adonal Foyle Fan

by Zorgon on Nov 17, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

That first line...

and I was thinking about the Warrior with the H1N1.

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

It's essentially

a one-act play that’s been filmed. In that context, the acting is fine.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh yeah. I think we can win, but I always think we can win. The only team I feared was the Magic, and we seen what happened.

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 7:46 AM CST reply actions  

Don't trust...

any teams in the East but the C’s, gotta go with the Thunder here. Getting some sleep watching the game bright and early in the morning!

by rickpidero on Nov 17, 2009 8:28 AM CST reply actions  

This year

I think they can beat anyone on a given night, and they proved that with wins over Orlando and the Spurs and that close loss to LA.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 10:20 AM CST reply actions  

We are a very tallented team

that being said …. when we are on we are on and when we off well the game is lost ….. While our Defense i ranked like 7th in this weeks power rankings Miami has the 2nd best D in the league. I would love for us to go in and make up for that last lost to home but this might be the 2nd in a three game loosing streak followed by ORL and then a huge win over Washington and LA!!!

Yes i said we will beat LA in LA and then a cow just flew by!!!

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Nov 17, 2009 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

maybe heat fans. can someone actually vote more than once?

by mleetch352 on Nov 17, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Possibly

if you cleared your cookies, but that seems like a lot to do just to make our poll lopsided.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

yea, too much work for a poll that doesnt mean anything.

by mleetch352 on Nov 17, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

One can vote for as many IPs and usernames they have.

You’ll note that if you sign out, you can vote again. So it all depends on how many usernames you’re willing to create and/or how many IPs you’re willing to hide behind. But, more than likely, it’s just pessimistic Thunder fans or Heat fans visiting from a much larger community than ours.

Tony.psd = Da Man
Manger of Welcome to Loud City
#1 Warriors, Thunder, and Adonal Foyle Fan

by Zorgon on Nov 17, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

If Collison could hit that mid range shot

on a regular basis, we should get rid of Krstic.

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 7:17 PM CST reply actions  

Thunder up by 11!

Aren’t you excited?

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 7:17 PM CST reply actions  

I'm watching

the Razorbacks game, but I just checked the score and was pleasantly surprised.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

I need to check the OU game.

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Hogs are playing

with just 6 scholarship players, but they’re hanging with Louisville. It would be a huge win,

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Man

1:52 Serge Ibaka enters game
1:50 Serge Ibaka personal foul

Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?

by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Nov 17, 2009 7:40 PM CST reply actions  

Is this game

not on the Sports Animal?

I’m online and just getting commercials.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 7:45 PM CST reply actions  

O'neal pushed Russ after the play.

Russ was about to go off on J.O.

Wade escorted Russ off the court. That was pretty classy.

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I live in Florida

but I can’t afford League Pass.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

So you can only see Orlando games?

That is crappy.

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

I mean, I like the Magic well enough that when I need a basketball fix, I can watch them.

But they’re not playing tonight and I still can’t watch the Heat game.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

From twitter:

Shaun Livingston underwent successful minor procedure today to resolve swelling in left knee. Est. out 3-4 weeks.

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 7:51 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, but I didn’t know it would be 3-4 weeks.

Did you get a feed or radio station?

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I found

a feed on justin.tv.

I hate using those though.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

In other injury news

the Magic will be short a point guard. Nelson tore his meniscus.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 7:53 PM CST reply actions  

So if we beat them again...

people will say they were undermanned again.

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

haha

A win is a win.

They still have Howard and VC.

But they’re starting 34 year old Jason Williams at PG and I don’t even know who his back up is.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

What happened?

If you can describe it briefly.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

WBrook was posting up and bumped Chalmers.

Chalmers fell/flopped and Russ was called for the charge.

O’Neal was also in the paint. Russ had to step over Chalmers, but O’neal stepped into WBrook and gave him a push.

WBrook reacted pretty quickly with a few open hand swipes towards O’Neal torso.

Wade quickly pulled WBrook from the fray and escorted him to the sideline while talking to him and patting him on the head.

After the refs checked the video. Russ and O’Neal both got techs.

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks

He’s got to keep his cool.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Anyone catch

the TU game today?

Jerome Jordan might be developing into a solid big man.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 8:03 PM CST reply actions  

haha

Well, so was Mullens, but I don’t consider him a solid big man.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I had it on but wasn't really watching

I saw him make a couple of nice post moves, but he was playing against a very inferior team.

Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?

by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Nov 17, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m curious what he looks like against a better team.

Tulsa was actually picked to win Con-USA this season.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 8:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Both feeds I found sucked

just kept freezing up.

Oh well, I can keep track on the Yahoo Game Channel.

Should be better tomorrow.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

i always use ESPN Gamecenter

is Yahoo better?

Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?

by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Nov 17, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Um, does Gamecenter have audio?

Because Yahoo doesn’t. It just does written play-by-play.

Also, I can keep track of my fantasy team.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

My best fantasy player

is Josh Smith.

And Brook Lopez as long as he’s not playing the Magic.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I would call any on my team the "best" player.

I’m seeing some crappy b-ball from some pretty good players.

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I have KD

Dirk and RW

Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?

by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Nov 17, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

no, no audio

I opened up Yahoo, and they are practically the same.

Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?

by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Nov 17, 2009 8:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Cool

I tried to find a Heat radio broadcast online, and their normal stations aren’t streaming the game either.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

On the radio in OKC...

Pinto is calling the game. Why wouldn’t they stream?

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by daddydai on Nov 17, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

No idea

but when I go to WWLS online, it’s just commercials.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

ya...

whats the deal? anyone know the a heat radio station

by rickpidero on Nov 17, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I looked some up

and they weren’t streaming either.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

wow

that sucks, this could become an issue

by rickpidero on Nov 17, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Same Issue

I noticed the same issue when I woke up this morning to listen to the game. Instead I got 2 and a half solid hours of:

a) buy a car
b) get out of debt from that car you bought 4 years ago
c) get out of IRS back taxes you accrued because of your car debt
d) you are a terrible parent, but don’t worry about it, it’s your kid who has the problem so buy a CD and they will magically be fixed
e) Al Eschbach self-promotion

That was way better than listening to the game anyway (-sob-)

Do you think that this means the games can no longer be streamed over the radio?

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Entertaining insight into Thunder basketball.

by okcthundercast on Nov 18, 2009 6:14 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

!

That would be the worst, I really hope it was just a technical issue.

by rickpidero on Nov 18, 2009 8:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

for being funny and true.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 18, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Word.

Tony.psd = Da Man
Manger of Welcome to Loud City
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by Zorgon on Nov 18, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

ya

i always get nervous around this time with this team

by rickpidero on Nov 17, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Fantastic win

on the road!

Tomorrow, we take on Orlando!

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 9:07 PM CST reply actions  

i have...

a feeling that this will be the game we get blown out. they are looking for revenge.

by rickpidero on Nov 17, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Or...

we win because we know we can beat them and Nelson isn’t playing.

by ElectricPencils on Nov 17, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

great win!

Still thinking about that lose at home to the clips.

by rickpidero on Nov 17, 2009 9:07 PM CST reply actions  


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